Lab/benchtop supplies with many, many outputs?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of powering multiple low-noise microwave amplifiers in a laboratory setting. Participants explore options for modular DC power supplies that can accommodate numerous outputs while maintaining low noise and adjustable current capabilities. The conversation includes inquiries about existing products and potential solutions for managing space and efficiency in lab setups.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the need for a modular system for DC supplies similar to CompactRIO or PXI, emphasizing the impracticality of using multiple benchtop supplies.
  • Another participant suggests that the market for such a specific item may be limited, potentially discouraging manufacturers from producing it.
  • A participant mentions having seen rack mount programmable PSU modules for automated test systems, though they do not recall the specific type or manufacturer.
  • One suggestion involves using MeanWell DIN Rail modular power supplies, which offer various output voltages and power levels, although they are switching supplies.
  • Another participant points out the characteristics of the MeanWell supplies, noting their ripple specifications and suggesting an alternative, the ZK-4KX buck-boost converters, while listing their drawbacks and advantages.
  • A participant expresses interest in the DIN rail solution but raises concerns about the noise from switching supplies, while also considering the ZK-4KX modules and other ready-made LM317/LM337 boards as potential options.
  • One participant clarifies that budget is not a primary concern, as the supplies will be used for high-value measurement electronics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific solution, with multiple competing views on the suitability of different types of power supplies and their characteristics remaining evident throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying preferences for switching versus linear supplies, with concerns about noise levels and the need for calibration in certain modules. The discussion reflects a range of requirements and specifications that may not be fully addressed by existing products.

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Does anyone know of some sort of modular system similar to say CompactRIO or PXI but for DC supplies? Alternatively, if anyone knows of a manufacturer of lab supplies with ~10 outputs?
We have a somewhat ridiculous problem in my lab. As our experiments gets more complicated we have more and more "widgets" (mainly different types of low-noise microwave amplifiers) that needs a power (typically 5-15 V, 100-500 mA).
Currently, we are using an assortment of regular benchtop supplies to power everything but having say 6-8 lab supplies (each with 2-3 outputs) next to each other is not very practical and takes up a lot of space. We need the supplies to be reasonably low noise (and linear), adjustable and have current clamping in case we make a mistake (the widgets are typically quite expensive).

My question is if anyone knows of some sort of modular system similar to say CompactRIO or PXI but for DC supplies? Alternatively, if anyone knows of a manufacturer of lab supplies with ~10 outputs?

In the past we have built our own multi-output supplies (it is a good project for summer students who want to learn basic electronics) and that is an option but at the moment we have more money than time (too much work, not enough people) so I would prefer to buy something.
 
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Sounds like such a seriously limited-market item that there would be little incentive for manufacturers to build such a device for commercial sale, but good luck.
 
I think I've seen something like that. Rack mount programmable PSU modules, for automated test systems.
It was some factory visit. I don't know the type/manufacturer :sorry:
 
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Summary:: Does anyone know of some sort of modular system similar to say CompactRIO or PXI but for DC supplies? Alternatively, if anyone knows of a manufacturer of lab supplies with ~10 outputs?

My question is if anyone knows of some sort of modular system similar to say CompactRIO or PXI but for DC supplies? Alternatively, if anyone knows of a manufacturer of lab supplies with ~10 outputs?
We use the MeanWell DIN Rail modular power supplies for applications like that. AC Mains input and a variety of output voltages and power levels (higher power versions are wider):

https://www.meanwell-web.com/en-gb/dinrail-powersupply/

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Those MeanWell supplies are switching supplies with fixed output voltage. The ripple specs show typically 1%p-p ripple with extrnal filtering of 0.1uF & 47uF in parallel.

If switchers are acceptable try an Internet search for ZK-4KX. Those are buck-boost converters:
IN: 5.5V-30VDC,
OUT: 0.5-30VDC at 0-4A.

Drawbacks are:
1) The Negative is straight-thru (no isolation)
2) They come un-calibrated - you must calibrate with a known load (>12V >1A)
3) Thru-the-panel mounting
4) the single knob for adjusting V & I is annoying

Advantages:
A knob for adjusting V and I
Digital readout
$

Pricing is all over the place, USD$11 to $35, depending on where you find them.

Cheers,
Tom
 
Thanks for the suggestions :smile:
The DIN rail solution looks very interesting. We typically try to avoid using switching supplies, low frequency noise can usually be quite easily filtered some switching supplies send out a LOT of high frequency crap. That said, a good quality switching supply might still be an option

The ZK-4KX modules look quite neat so is also worth looking at. They also gave me the idea of looking for other ready-made modules and I noticed that one can buy ready made LM317/LM337 boards with screw terminals and potientiometers that allows one to change the voltage (which we very rarely need to do). I guess one option would be to buy a bunch of these and then power several of them from a large linear supply.

Also, the price is not really an issue here. This is for work and the supplies are used to power measurement electronics worth many thousands of pounds (which in turn is part of setups worth hundreds of thousands...you get the picture) so I don't mind paying for good quality products.
 
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