Laplace transform of Diff. Eq containing sine Function

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The discussion focuses on finding the Laplace transform of the pendulum equation, which includes a sine function. The initial attempt at the solution leads to a problematic term involving \(\omega\), prompting questions about the correct application of the Laplace transform. Participants clarify that the sine function's Laplace transform is \(\frac{1}{s^2 + 1}\), leading to a more sensible equation. There is also a debate on whether the Laplace transform can be applied to nonlinear differential equations, with a consensus that it can, provided the correct terms are included. The goal is to express the transfer function in a form that relates \(Y(s)\) and \(F(s)\) appropriately.
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Homework Statement


Find the Laplace transform of the pendulum equation.

Homework Equations


The pendulum equation:
<br /> \frac{d^{2}\theta}{dt^{2}} + \alpha \frac{d \theta}{dt} + g \sin(\theta) = 0 <br />

<br /> s = \sigma + i \omega<br />

The Attempt at a Solution


Taking the laplace transform I get

<br /> s^{2} + \alpha s + g \frac{\omega}{s^{2}+\omega^{2}} = 0<br />

I usually drop the \sigma term in s = \sigma + i \omega, which leaves

<br /> s^{2} + \alpha s + g \frac{\omega}{-\omega^{2}+\omega^{2}} = 0<br />

The \frac{\omega}{-\omega^{2}+\omega^{2}} is problematic, but I'm not sure what to do. I don't see the usefulness of the \sigma variable, and I'm not sure that I'm doing this correctly to begin with
 
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You're not doing the transform correctly. For laplace you're just taking the real part of z in exp^{-zt}, z = \sigma + i \omega.
 
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I'm not sure what you're saying but I had a thought. I think the Laplace of the sine function is
<br /> \mathcal{L} \left\{\sin(t)\right\} = \frac{1}{s^{2}+1}<br />

which would make the transform

<br /> s^{2} + \alpha s + g \frac{1}{s^{2}+1} = 0<br />

This is more sensible, but I still need to verify it some how.
 
What do you get if you take the Laplace transform of just a second deriavative?
 
I think it is something like

\mathcal{L} \left\{y(t)\right\} = s^{2} Y(s)

presuming that
\dot y(0) = 0
and
\ddot y(0) = 0

I think the sine term would make this a nonlinear differential equation, and I'm now I'm thinking that maybe the Laplace transform doesn't work on nonlinear differential equations.
 
Sure it does!

Why do you keep dropping the Y(s) terms? That's what you need to take the inverse laplace transform of! Solve for Y(s) and take the inverse transform.
 
I'm trying to get a transfer function of:

<br /> \frac{d^{2}\theta}{dt^{2}} + \alpha \frac{d \theta}{dt} + g \sin( \theta ) = f(t) <br />

With the Y(s) terms I get:

<br /> s^{2} Y(s) + \alpha s Y(s) + g \frac{1}{s^{2}+1}} = F(s)<br />

For the transfer function, I want to Y(s) and F(s) on the same side like this:

<br /> \frac{Y(s)}{F(s)}<br />

but I don't see and way to factor things out that way.
 
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