Laptop for an ME undergraduate/graduate student

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The discussion revolves around selecting suitable laptops for mechanical engineering students, particularly those capable of running engineering software such as CAD and Matlab. Participants consider factors like affordability, performance requirements, and the practicality of using laptops for CAD work.

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  • Some participants inquire about the budget for the laptop, with one stating a range of around $1000.
  • Concerns are raised about the suitability of laptops for running CAD software, with some arguing that CAD is resource-intensive and better suited for larger screens.
  • One participant mentions that while Matlab can run on less expensive machines, CAD and CFD require more powerful hardware.
  • Another participant suggests that a large external monitor is essential for effective CAD work, emphasizing the limitations of laptop screens.
  • Some participants express skepticism about using laptops for CAD, suggesting that it may be difficult or ineffective.
  • A suggestion is made to consider refurbishing an older laptop by upgrading its RAM and storage, which could be a cost-effective solution.
  • Resolution and size of external monitors are discussed, with emphasis on the importance of having adequate resolution for CAD work.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the practicality of using laptops for CAD. While some emphasize the need for larger screens and more powerful machines, others suggest that it is possible to manage with a laptop, indicating a lack of consensus on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various software requirements and performance considerations, but there is no agreement on specific laptop models or configurations that would universally meet the needs of mechanical engineering students.

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What are some of the best laptops for mechanical engineering students that are capable of running all the programs for engineering? Keep affordability in mind if possible. :smile:
 
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Wrichik Basu said:
What is your budget?
1000 give or take a couple hundred, I was considering a 2 in 1 but not sure if they have what is required.
 
what do you need to run? CAD is a memory hog, and so is CFD, but Matlab can be run on a very inexpensive machine. My interns ran CATIA 3-Dx all summner on a reasonably inexpensive laptop. I have a work-station type laptop which runs everything and was about triple your budget.
 
Dr Transport said:
what do you need to run? CAD is a memory hog, and so is CFD, but Matlab can be run on a very inexpensive machine. My interns ran CATIA 3-Dx all summner on a reasonably inexpensive laptop. I have a work-station type laptop which runs everything and was about triple your budget.
I am looking to run CAD and Matlab for now. What laptops do your interns use?
 
Why in heaven would you want to run CAD on a laptop?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Why in heaven would you want to run CAD on a laptop?
What do you suggest?
 
A big screen. You want a lot of information on a screen to do CAD.
Have you ever done CAD? On a laptop?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
A big screen. You want a lot of information on a screen to do CAD.
Have you ever done CAD? On a laptop?
No I've never done CAD. As I am a student, that's why I'm asking questions here thanks!
 
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You do not want to be drawing on a tiny little screen.

Givem that, I would not buy a computer now, since you have no experience with what you will be running. Wait a bit. Computers will be faster and cheaper then anyway.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
You do not want to be drawing on a tiny little screen.

Givem that, I would not buy a computer now, since you have no experience with what you will be running. Wait a bit. Computers will be faster and cheaper then anyway.
Wait until when? I'm taking an intro into CAD this semester and because of Covid I am working at home.
 
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Do whatever you want.

I find it difficult to impossible to use CAD on a laptop. But do whatever you want.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Do whatever you want.

I find it difficult to impossible to use CAD on a laptop. But do whatever you want.
That's brilliant. Is being pretentious and not helpful a prerequisite for being an advisor on this site or is that just a coincidence?
 
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Wrichik Basu said:
What is your budget?
dsaun777 said:
1000 give or take a couple hundred, ...
The first thing to learn about engineering is that numbers are meaningless without units.
 
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Baluncore said:
The first thing to learn about engineering is that numbers are meaningless without units.
cool.
 
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dsaun777 said:
cool.
1100 yen will not buy much of a computer, or did you mean baht, rupee or yuan.
 
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dsaun777 said:
What are some of the best laptops for mechanical engineering students that are capable of running all the programs for engineering? Keep affordability in mind if possible. :smile:
Vanadium 50 said:
You do not want to be drawing on a tiny little screen.
Vanadium 50 said:
I find it difficult to impossible to use CAD on a laptop. But do whatever you want.
I agree with @Vanadium 50 -- you need to include the cost of a very large monitor in your plans (but luckily for you they are not that expensive anymore).
dsaun777 said:
That's brilliant. Is being pretentious and not helpful a prerequisite for being an advisor on this site or is that just a coincidence?
That's uncalled for, IMO. You need a big screen for CAD. You will be completely ineffective trying to run CAD packages on even a large laptop screen (I'm using a large HP laptop right now, and there is no way I could use it for schematic capture, PCB Layout, FEA, etc.).

Please reset your attitude. Thank you.
 
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If you're up for a little tinkering and not in a breakneck hurry, you can buy a Dell Latitude 3470 on eBay used for $200 to $300 and upgrade its RAM to 16Gb (crucial.com) and also order a 1Tb SSD from crucial.com and swap it in for the old hard drive. I just did this to my older laptop, and it's like new again. That would all cost $500, maybe $600. You'd also need to get a fan platform to set it on, since it's older--you want to keep it cool. Then, you'd have money to buy an external monitor--two screens double my productivity. Most laptops from 4 years ago I wouldn't bother to refurbish, but the 3470 is really nice. I've found RAM to be more important that CPU in running applications. Admittedly, I have not run CAD on this, but I think it would work.
 
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On the external monitor subject. Not only size, but resolution is also quite important. No point in a 27in. screen with 1280x1024 resolution unless you are sitting across the room.

ALthough I haven't done any CAD is several years, I've found just over 100dpi (dots-per-inch) to be just acceptable. My current monitor for mostly text and some graphics, is 23inch at 104dpi, that's 2048x1152 pixels. Sitting with my eye socket 24 inches away, I can scan the screen rather easily with very little head movement, of course looking at details requires head twisting.

I'm likely several decades older than you are, so your eyes may be able to take advantage of a greater dpi... if you can find and afford them! Also make sure the computer can handle the higher resolution.

Remember that your visual system is a parallel input channel, you don't want to be constantly scrolling trying to get 'the big picture' of your project.

Cheers,
Tom
 
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