Large flock of birds seems to fly into ground, many dead and injured

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A recent incident involving a dense flock of birds crashing to the ground has sparked speculation about the cause. Two primary theories have emerged: one suggests a toxic cloud or gas could have disoriented the birds, while the other posits that they were startled by a predator, triggering a collective avoidance response similar to moths reacting to bat sonar. Observers noted that the mass of birds might have lost lift due to their density, akin to helicopters affecting each other's flight. Some participants in the discussion dismissed the toxic gas theory, arguing it would leave more evidence on the ground, and questioned the likelihood of a predator causing such a downward movement. Another potential explanation mentioned is a downdraft or microburst, although skepticism exists regarding its localized impact. Overall, the incident raises questions about flock behavior and the dynamics of group movement in birds.
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So are there any ideas what happened? Flocks of birds and schools of fish often behave like this, but you would think that birds would have a clue where the ground was...
 
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berkeman said:
schools of fish
I've only heard of this with whales/dolphins.

It was a very dense flock of birds.
The article had 2 possible explanations:
toxic cloud or something like that
or scared (as a flock, which moves together due to their flock coordinating instincts) by a predator into a predator avoidance response.
The second option would be somewhat like moths diving toward the ground when they hear bat sonar. When a moving car emits bat-like frequencies, some moths will dive into the front of a car due to an unfortunately triggered reflex.
 
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I wonder if their density becomes too great and they happen to be descending that the lift of the lower ones significantly drops? Like if a helicopter flew directly over another helicopter wouldn't the lower one loose lift?

Flock videos no crashing,



 
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There are some fun bird flock effects in some shows.
I think during one of the Rome shows (HBO I think) a flock above the horizon formed a skull.
Kind of like The Mummy doing shapes in sand.
 
berkeman said:
So are there any ideas what happened? Flocks of birds and schools of fish often behave like this, but you would think that birds would have a clue where the ground was...
I think it just looks as if they lost their way on follow the leader ( there isn't one ) en mass, and some of them hit hard and stunned. A miscalculation like when you stub your tow, or stumble on a crack on the sidewalk.
I wouldn't expect all flocking to be completely perfect all the time.
Toxic gas would have left a lot more on the ground for a lot longer.
A predator from above would have seen them all disperse radially in an expansion and regroup after rather than driving them downwards.
 
Another possibility I've heard raised is a downdraft/microburst. There is definitely air movement ahead of the birds hitting (puff of dust in the street, bush in the left foreground), but I can't be sure if the mass of air is moving them or if they are moving it. I also didn't think downdrafts could be quite this localized, so I'm leaning against this explanation. Just putting it out there.
 
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