Large-Scale DAC (Direct Air Capture) Facilities to be Built Soon

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The discussion revolves around the announcement of large-scale direct air capture (DAC) facilities being developed in the U.S. as part of an initiative to combat climate change. Participants explore the potential benefits and drawbacks of DAC technology, its effectiveness compared to other climate solutions, and its role in addressing carbon dioxide emissions.

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  • One participant highlights the announcement of $1.2 billion funding for DAC facilities in Texas and Louisiana, noting their potential to remove over 2 million metric tons of CO2 annually.
  • Another participant corrects a figure regarding global CO2 emissions, suggesting it should be in billions rather than millions.
  • A participant expresses skepticism about the impact of DAC technology, questioning its significance in the context of global emissions.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the unclear energy requirements for DAC technology and the challenges associated with the long-term storage of captured CO2.
  • Some participants suggest that DAC may be more of a public relations effort rather than a viable long-term solution for climate change.

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Participants express mixed views on the effectiveness and viability of DAC technology. While some see potential benefits, others are skeptical and raise concerns about its limitations and overall impact on climate change.

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Participants note the need for clarity on energy requirements and the safety of CO2 storage, indicating that these aspects remain unresolved in the discussion.

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https://www.energy.gov/articles/bid...s-12-billion-nations-first-direct-air-capture
WASHINGTON, D.C. — As part of President Biden’s Investing in America agenda, the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) today announced up to $1.2 billion to advance the development of two commercial-scale direct air capture facilities in Texas and Louisiana. These projects—the first of this scale in the United States—represent the initial selections from the President’s Bipartisan Infrastructure Law-funded Regional Direct Air Capture (DAC) Hubs program, which aims to kickstart a nationwide network of large-scale carbon removal sites to address legacy carbon dioxide pollution and complement rapid emissions reductions. These emissions are already in the atmosphere, fueling climate change and extreme weather and jeopardizing public health and ecosystems across the globe. The Hubs are expected to ensure meaningful community and labor engagement and contribute to the President’s Justice40 Initiative. Together, these projects are expected to remove more than 2 million metric tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions each year from the atmosphere—an amount equivalent to the annual emissions from roughly 445,000 gasoline-powered cars—and create 4,800 good-paying jobs in Texas and Louisiana.

Today’s announcement will be the world’s largest investment in engineered carbon removal in history and each Hub will eventually remove more than 250 times more carbon dioxide than the largest DAC facility currently operating.
I've never heard of a DAC, but this sounds promising.

Google tells me that annually we (the entire world) release 35+ million metric tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Removing 2 million metric tons is a nice start, but I'm curious if there are any notable drawbacks with such technology? Can these DACs be a long-term solution for climate change/global warming problems?
 
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kyphysics said:
35+ million metric tons
Should be billion.
 
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Frabjous said:
Should be billion.
My thoughts went from: "Hey, this could significantly change global warming"

to

"Meh. This doesn't do anything." [relatively speaking]

:sorry:

eta: I'll leave the incorrect figure for reference/comparison purposes.
 
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kyphysics said:
I'm curious if there are any notable drawbacks with such technology?
Just a few.

First, the unclear energy requirement.

Then, the long term safe storage of a breath-inhibiting dangerous gas with a bad history.

Also, the matter of effectiveness compared to other solutions, like emission-reduction.

... Overall, this feels rather like PR- than climate-engineering.
Sure, time to start doing big things since waiting will just cook us, but ... this one just cannot bring me the right feeling :sorry:
 
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