Lateral compression of rectangular tube

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the stress and safe working load for a fixture designed from stainless steel rectangular tube, subjected to a significant weight over a specified area. The focus includes theoretical approaches to stress analysis, particularly in the context of hollow sections under lateral compression.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the appropriate method to calculate stress and safe working load when applying a large weight over a rectangular area.
  • Another suggests that finite element stress analysis may be necessary, indicating a complexity that may not be simplified easily.
  • A different participant proposes starting with a shear stress calculation and references an equation typically used for simply supported beams, questioning its applicability to the current scenario.
  • Another participant identifies two potential local failure modes: bending of the horizontal face and buckling or crippling of the vertical faces, emphasizing the need for assumptions regarding effective width.
  • There is a suggestion that while finite element analysis could yield a less conservative design, it may not be practically worth the effort.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the methods for stress analysis, with no consensus on the best approach or the necessity of finite element analysis. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most appropriate calculations and assumptions.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the complexity of the loading scenario and the potential for local failures, but there are unresolved assumptions about effective widths and the applicability of certain equations to the specific case of a fully supported rectangular tube.

Colnago
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Hi guys,

Bit of a noob engineer here so looking for some guidance.

I'm designing a fixture which will be constructed from stainless steel rectangular tube as shown in the diagram. If I apply a 10,000kg weight over a 100mx100mm area how do I go about calculating the stress and ultimately safe working load?

The tube will be laid flat on the ground. Is this just a case of force/area? I'm struggling to find any textbook examples of loading applied to hollow sections in this way.

Thanks in advance!

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You probably need to do some finite element stress analysis. I can't think of a way of simplifying it. Maybe someone else can.

Chet
 
Hi Colnago,

I'm no structural engineering expert but I would start with a shear stress calculation. Check the following link under the heading 'Beam shear' for an equation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_moment_of_area#Statical_moment_of_area

The equation is usually used for simply supported beams, rather than one which is supported throughout it's whole length but I think it is still valid. Maybe someone else could confirm.
 
Assuming we are talking about a local failure here and not a larger beam failure.

I see two possible local failures:
1) the horizontal face failing by bending
2) the vertical faces failing by buckling or crippling

You would have to make an assumption about the effective width of each face. You could come up with a less conservative design with FEM but probably not worth the effort practically.
 

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