Layman's understanding of interactions in string theory

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The discussion revolves around the nature of interactions in string theory, particularly how it relates to particle interactions such as the repulsion of electrons and the attraction of quarks. Participants explore whether string theory provides a deeper understanding of these interactions or if it serves merely as a mathematical framework similar to quantum mechanics.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that string theory currently does not predict the particle content of the standard model, which implies it cannot predict their interactions either.
  • Others argue that string theory can calculate interactions without additional assumptions, as interactions are included in the "free" Lagrangian and are topological in nature.
  • One participant mentions that string theory clarifies interactions in a non-mathematical way, suggesting that particles interact through bosons, with the emission of a photon representing a piece of the electron's string breaking off.
  • Another participant expresses confusion regarding the interpretation of how particles like electrons and photons relate to string vibrations, questioning the accepted models of particle interactions.
  • Some participants challenge the idea of how an electron, as an endpoint of an open string, interacts with other particles, suggesting that the concept seems counterintuitive.
  • There is a mention of the original idea of strings describing the strong force, proposing that strings could represent field lines between particles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no consensus on the nature of interactions in string theory or the interpretation of how particles interact. Some agree on the limitations of string theory in predicting interactions, while others propose differing interpretations of how string theory describes these interactions.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on assumptions about the nature of extra dimensions and the specific models of string theory being discussed. The discussion reflects various interpretations and uncertainties regarding the foundational aspects of string theory and particle interactions.

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Recently I have read some non-technical publication and books on strings (ex. The elegant universe by B. Greene). Greene says that the string theory unifies all interactions and explains their nature.

In fact I haven’t found any explanation why do particles / strings interact. I mean – why do two electrons repel or why do 2 quarks attract strongly? Or why do all particles attract gravitationally?

Does the string theory really clarify the nature of interactions or is it only the mathematical tool for calculations as the quantum mechanics is?
 
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String theory as of today is not able to predict the particle content of the standard model. So it cannot predict their interactions, either.
 
ooh i loved that book; for your first series of question no one knows all work in particle physics basically describes how particles interact with bosons without telling why; for your second question it does clarify interactions in a nonmathmatical way: as the book says, particles interact through the fundamental forces via bosons or particle carriers of the particular force. according to string theory, when an electron(arbitrary particle) emits a photon, a piece of the electron's string breaks off and becomes the photon which can then be absorbed by whatever particle it's interacting with
 
tom.stoer said:
String theory as of today is not able to predict the particle content of the standard model. So it cannot predict their interactions, either.
That it is not able to predict is true. But that it can calculate the interactions without any further assumption is one of its greatest appeal. We are used to having to somehow "choose" the interactions once the free theory is defined. String interactions however are already in the "free" lagrangian, they just happen to be topological. For instance in
http://xxx.soton.ac.uk/abs/hep-ph/0001166
you will find explicit string corrections to the standard model.
 
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You should add the remark that these corrections are derived under the assumption that the extra dimensions are large. So it's not ST, it's "ST +large extra dimensions".

Again, it's one of many possible ST-inspired models, so there's no prediction from first principles.

Let's wait for the first LHC results ...
 
kashiark said:
ooh i loved that book; for your first series of question no one knows all work in particle physics basically describes how particles interact with bosons without telling why; for your second question it does clarify interactions in a nonmathmatical way: as the book says, particles interact through the fundamental forces via bosons or particle carriers of the particular force. according to string theory, when an electron(arbitrary particle) emits a photon, a piece of the electron's string breaks off and becomes the photon which can then be absorbed by whatever particle it's interacting with

I'm still confused the by these matters. I used to think that what is described above was the accepted way an electron would emmit a photon ie by the string breaking in two. But I've also heard that an electron is the ossilation at the end of an open string and the photon is the vibration onlong the string between the end points.

In this sense one should understand particles as possible modes of vibration on a string. There is only one type of string(or one for each type of string theory). Certainly it seems that gauge particles can be viewed in a stringy picture as vibration modes on a string. But quite how one should view quarks and leptons I am not sure.

I don't claim to know what I am talking about...this is just what i pick up from conversations with string theorists and from laymans books.
 
well I'm not much of an expert but I've never heard of this and it seems counterintuitive; for instance, if an electron is at the end of the open string and the bosons are along it, where is the particle the electron is interacting with?
 
kashiark said:
well I'm not much of an expert but I've never heard of this and it seems counterintuitive; for instance, if an electron is at the end of the open string and the bosons are along it, where is the particle the electron is interacting with?

The other end of the string! Yeah it seems a bit weird. But i think the idea goes back to the original idea of strings describing the strong force. The string could be understood as a field line between the two particles. So one is quantizing the field lines or the flux as supposed to the field.
 

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