Level of thermodynamics does an engineer needs to know

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The discussion centers around the level of thermodynamics knowledge required for engineers with a bachelor's degree, particularly in fields such as mechanical, aerospace, nuclear, and chemical engineering. Participants also inquire about the textbooks commonly used in engineering thermodynamics courses.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks what level of thermodynamics is necessary for engineers and requests information on textbooks used in relevant courses.
  • Another participant mentions using 'Engineering Thermodynamics, Work & Heat Transfer' by Rogers & Mayhew as a key resource during their mechanical engineering studies.
  • Several participants reference the MIT textbook by Silbey, Alberty & Bawendi, with one questioning whether it focuses more on chemical thermodynamics rather than engineering thermodynamics.
  • It is suggested that the level of thermodynamics knowledge required varies by engineering discipline, with mechanical and aerospace engineers needing a substantial understanding due to the subject's fundamental role in those fields.
  • One participant elaborates that mechanical, aerospace, and nuclear engineers likely require the most thermodynamics background, emphasizing the importance of understanding thermodynamic cycles and the specifics of working fluids and conditions.
  • Thermal-hydraulics, which combines thermodynamics and fluid mechanics, is mentioned as an additional area of complexity relevant to certain engineering applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the specific level of thermodynamics knowledge required for various engineering disciplines, indicating that there is no consensus on a single standard. The distinction between chemical and engineering thermodynamics is also debated.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the curriculum structure may vary by university, with some students taking a general thermodynamics course in their second year before specializing in their chosen field in later years.

Lisa!
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What level of thermodynamics does an engineer(with Bachelor degree) need to know? And I'd be grateful if someone tells me what book engineering students study for their thermodynamics course?(especially nuclear eng., mechanical eng. or chemical eng.)

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I used 'Engineering Thermodynamics, Work & Heat Transfer' by Rogers & Mayhew (Prentice Hall) for my degree (mech eng), was pretty much a bible, and I still occasionally refer to it.
 
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Lisa! said:
What level of thermodynamics does an engineer(with Bachelor degree) need to know?
It depends on the type of engineer. If mechanical or aerospace, a lot. Thermodynamics is a fundamental part of those two disciplines.
 
brewnog said:
Is this not more chemical thermodynamics rather than engineering thermodynamics?
This is a thermodynamics course all the engineering students get in the second bachelor year, at our university. Choosing your specialty is done in the 3rd year here and if you choose chemical engineering, you'll get more in the higher years - and I suppose also more engineering-oriented.
 
russ_watters said:
It depends on the type of engineer. If mechanical or aerospace, a lot. Thermodynamics is a fundamental part of those two disciplines.
Mechanical, aerospace and nuclear engineers probably need the most thermodynamics background, and I expect chemical engineers as well. Within these discplines, besides the basic laws of thermodynamics, one needs to delve into details of thermodynamic cycles, and one would likely specialize in one particular cycle, e.g. Rankine (steam/water), Brayton, Stirling, Carnot, etc. A lot depends on the working fluid and thermodynamic conditions, and whether combustion is inolved or not. Looking at jet or rocket propulsion, particularly with supersonic flow is another level of complexity.

And then there is thermal-hydraulics (coupling of thermodynamics and fluid mechanics).
 
Thanks everyone! :smile:
 

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