Levitation of objects by a magnetic field ?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the phenomenon of levitating objects using magnetic fields. Participants explore various mechanisms of magnetic levitation, including the principles of magnetic attraction and repulsion, as well as the application of angular momentum and electromagnetic induction.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the basic principles of magnetic levitation and whether it involves opposite charged fields.
  • Another participant explains that magnets have North and South poles, and that like poles repel while opposite poles attract, which is fundamental to understanding levitation.
  • Some participants mention toys that utilize magnetic levitation, where magnets are arranged to prevent flipping or sliding away.
  • A participant describes using high-frequency induction coils to levitate electrically conducting objects by inducing currents that repel the object.
  • It is noted that angular momentum can stabilize levitating magnets, but this alone may not be sufficient for stability without precession.
  • One participant shares a personal experience with a levitating toy, highlighting the difficulty in achieving the right spin for stability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the mechanisms of magnetic levitation, with some agreeing on the principles of attraction and repulsion, while others introduce more complex ideas involving angular momentum and electromagnetic induction. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the sufficiency of angular momentum for stability in levitation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants correct earlier misunderstandings about magnetic poles and clarify the conditions necessary for stable levitation, but the discussion does not reach a consensus on the best methods or principles involved.

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levitation of objects by a magnetic field ?

how is it done?
does this happen when opposite (charged) field come in contact?
i'hve not understood it properly so pls xplain.
 
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Opposites attract, likes repell.

That is each magnetic field has a North[N] and South pole, two magnets connect NS or SN. If you try to make a like connection, SS or NN they repel each other, that is if they are laying on a table and you push one magnet towards the other, the other will slide away, or spin to match NS or SN.

As far as levitation, it is a mater of stopping the magnets from flipping or sliding away. You can see toys that have a stick with dougnut shaped magnets that levitate abouve each other on the stick.

CraigD, AMInstP
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i'm sorry.i was just stupid.(abt the opposite poles repel)
yeah now i get it. thanks.
 
CraigD said:
Opposites attract, likes repell.

That is each magnetic field has a North[N] and South pole, two magnets connect NS or SN. If you try to make a like connection, SS or NN they repel each other, that is if they are laying on a table and you push one magnet towards the other, the other will slide away, or spin to match NS or SN.

As far as levitation, it is a mater of stopping the magnets from flipping or sliding away. You can see toys that have a stick with dougnut shaped magnets that levitate abouve each other on the stick.

CraigD, AMInstP
www.cymek.com


Indeed you can have the poles of two magnets oppositely directed repel each other as in these toys. The stabalizing factor here is a large angular momentum, which you have to apply by making the toy spin very fast. I got one myself, but I'm not so skilled in using it however...

One can, however also magnetically levitate electrically conducting objects by using a very high frequency induction coil. By suppling the coil with a very high frequency current, a rapidly changing magnetic field, i.e. an electric field is induced which can induce currents in the electrically conducting object, e.g. a droplet of mercury or a plasma. These currents are opppositely directed to the currents in the coil and thus are repelled by the coil, which can be used to levitate the object.

Or alternatively the Lorentz force on the conducting object JxB can be written as the sum of 'Maxwell stresses' and a 'magnetic pressure' B^2/4mu, the latter of which pushes the object away.

As a possibly added benefit the currents developing in the conducting object can, by Ohmic dissipation, in certain circumstances melt the object. This levitation melting is used for quite some time now for highly reactive substances e.g.
 
Even frogs http://www.hfml.ru.nl/levitate.html
 
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A nother way to combat the stability problem is to spin the floating magnet.

CraigD, AMInstP
www.cymek.com
 
da_willem said:
Indeed you can have the poles of two magnets oppositely directed repel each other as in these toys. The stabalizing factor here is a large angular momentum, which you have to apply by making the toy spin very fast. I got one myself, but I'm not so skilled in using it however...

It's important to note, though, that while having angular momentum is a necessary condition, it's not sufficient. It can be shown that if the angular momentum vector is always vertically oriented, the configuration is unstable. The levitating magnet needs to precess as well.

PS: I've used that toy too. You're right, it's quite hard to spin it the right way! :-p
 
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