Libertarian Free Will and Moral Responsibility

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of libertarian free will and its implications for moral responsibility, particularly in hypothetical scenarios involving parallel universes where a man's actions differ despite identical circumstances. Participants explore the relationship between free will, moral accountability, and the influence of desires, knowledge, and experiences on decision-making.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that if a man's actions are independent of his desires, knowledge, and experiences, it raises questions about how he can be held morally responsible for those actions.
  • Others suggest that the existence of a moral right to life for the victim implies that the man who killed must be held accountable, regardless of the circumstances of his choice.
  • A participant questions whether the premise of identical circumstances in parallel universes is logically consistent, suggesting that if the act was random, it may not be appropriate to say he "killed" anyone.
  • Some argue that the definition of free will being discussed is flawed, as it suggests choices can be made without any influence from physical processes or prior experiences.
  • There is a viewpoint that if a person acts without being influenced by uncontrollable factors, they might bear more moral responsibility, as they are not subject to emotional or deterministic influences.
  • Several participants express skepticism about the plausibility of actions being truly detached from one's experiences and desires.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of free will and its implications for moral responsibility. The discussion reflects significant disagreement on the definitions and implications of libertarian free will.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the hypothetical scenarios, including the unexplained causes of actions and the implications of moral rights in the context of parallel universes. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitions and consequences of free will.

  • #31
Think of it this way: The only thing that differentiates a positive charge from a negative one is that they are opposite. There is nothing intrinsic to the nature of the charge itself such that one must be called "positive" and one must be called "negative". We could equally have switched these words. The only thing intrinsic to them is that they are opposite charges, and thus all physical laws remain identical if we only recognize that the opposite charges attract and identical charges repel. This includes the magnetic field as well.
 
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You seem to be missing the point here. The charges take different parts provided that you aim the magnetic field in the same direction. This is scientifically proven.

Take an arbitrary magnetic field. Send an electron through it. Then send the proton and you will notice the difference.

You are, in effect, actually arguing that we cannot separate an electron from a positron, which is quite mad.

There is nothing intrinsic to the nature of the charge itself such that one must be called "positive" and one must be called "negative".

A rose by any other name.
 

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