Light Frequency: What is the Lowest/Highest Frequency?

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The discussion centers around the frequency ranges of light and mechanical waves, exploring concepts related to electromagnetic waves, visible spectrum, and the nature of sound. Participants question the boundaries of what constitutes light and the implications of frequency on wave behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the lowest and highest frequencies at which light ceases to be classified as light, with references to the visible spectrum.
  • There is a claim that all electromagnetic waves travel at the speed of light in a vacuum, countering the idea that lower frequencies could travel slower.
  • Participants discuss whether infrared radiation is considered light, with some affirming its classification as an electromagnetic wave.
  • One participant seeks clarification on the range of frequencies for electromagnetic waves and questions the existence of limits for mechanical waves.
  • Another participant suggests that the highest frequency of electromagnetic waves might relate to the Planck time, while noting that there may be no practical limit.
  • There is a discussion about the relationship between mechanical waves and Planck's relation, with differing views on whether mechanical waves are dictated by quantum principles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the classification of light and the implications of frequency ranges. While some points are clarified, there remains no consensus on the limits of frequencies for electromagnetic and mechanical waves.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference concepts like the visible spectrum and Planck's relation, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions and boundaries of light and wave behavior.

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I've seen that all of the frequencies of everything -light, sound, etc- fits onto the same spectrum. My question is as follows:

What is the lowest/highest frequency at which light stops being light?

Like... A lower frequency would move at the speed of sound but, as the frequency increases, it reaches a threshold at which it shoots off, moving 1,000,000 times faster...

Also: What is classed as light? Is the infrared still counted as light. (I was told that waves at that frequency are what we see as heat but it can be both light and heat, right?)

Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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JDude13 said:
I've seen that all of the frequencies of everything -light, sound, etc- fits onto the same spectrum.
Light is an electromagnetic wave; sound is a mechanical wave. While both have frequencies, they are very different sorts of things.

My question is as follows:

What is the lowest/highest frequency at which light stops being light?
I don't know what you mean by light stopping being light. Are you asking for the range of the visible spectrum? See: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/ems3.html#c2"

Like... A lower frequency would move at the speed of sound but, as the frequency increases, it reaches a threshold at which it shoots off, moving 1,000,000 times faster...
That doesn't happen. All electromagnetic waves travel at the same speed in a vacuum--the speed of light!

Also: What is classed as light? Is the infrared still counted as light. (I was told that waves at that frequency are what we see as heat but it can be both light and heat, right?)
Yes, infrared radiation is an electromagnetic wave just like visible light. See: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/ems1.html#c1"
 
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Let me rephrase my question:

What is the range of frequencies at which electromagnetic waves can exist?

Also let me ask another question:

Is there a limit on the range of frequencies available to mechanical waves?

One more:

Are mechanical waves dictated by Planck Relation?
 
JDude13 said:
What is the range of frequencies at which electromagnetic waves can exist?
The lower range is certainly a frequency of zero. The upper? Thats a tough one, it would have to involve physics beyond the simple E=h\nu. Its the same as asking is there an upper limit to the energy of a photon. I don't know.

JDude13 said:
Is there a limit on the range of frequencies available to mechanical waves?
Yes - For sound, the shortest possible wavelength is on the order of the distance between molecules, so the maximum frequency would be on the order of the speed of sound divided by the intermolecular distance.

JDude13 said:
Are mechanical waves dictated by Planck Relation?
No, the quantum wave is different from the mechanical wave.
 
JDude13 said:
Let me rephrase my question:

What is the range of frequencies at which electromagnetic waves can exist?
One can speculate that the highest possible frequency would be related to the Planck time, but I don't know much about it. But for practical purposes, there is no limit.

Also let me ask another question:

Is there a limit on the range of frequencies available to mechanical waves?
Yes, as they depend on the mechanical properties of the medium.

One more:

Are mechanical waves dictated by Planck Relation?
Mechanical vibrations are quantized, and the phonon energies obey Planck's relation.
 

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