Light Greetings: Understanding UV Light & Zinc Electron Energy

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The discussion revolves around the photoelectric effect, specifically regarding the behavior of electrons in zinc when illuminated by ultraviolet light. The original poster, Mike, is seeking to understand why some electrons may emerge with less energy than the maximum energy predicted after escaping the material.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Einstein's photoelectric equation and the concept of electron energy levels in metals. Questions arise about the definition and role of "surface electrons" and the varying energy requirements for different electrons to escape the material.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the energy levels of electrons and the implications of the photoelectric effect. Some guidance has been offered regarding the differences in energy among electrons, but no consensus has been reached on the definitions or concepts involved.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the terminology used to describe electrons in the context of the photoelectric effect, particularly concerning the concept of "surface electrons" and the energy required for their release.

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Greetings. I am in part-time studies for my undergraduate I am taking physics for the first time.

I am completely overwhelmed and am having a hard time of finding answers to the textbook questions in the textbook itself. The current question I am stumped in is:

Suppose zinc is illuminated with ultraviolet light of a single frequency, for example. f= 1.5f threshold. Why might some electrons emerge with less energy than "maximum energy of electron after escape?"

I appreciate any help and or guidance.

Thanks,
Mike
 
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Einstein's Photoelectric equation is

KE ≤ E - W0

Where the equality holds only for surface electrons. For the nonsurface electrons KE < E - W0.
 
The electrons in the metal do not all have the same energy.
Does that help?

@darkxponent: There are no "surface electrons" in the way you describe them.
 
mfb said:
@darkxponent: There are no "surface electrons" in the way you describe them.

So in what way do i describe surface electrons? I studied them this way only, that the electrons at the surface need least energy to be separated because there potential energy less negative than any other electron.
 
I appreciate the quick response. Can you give me an example or a bit more info so that I can fully understand (if you have time).
 
darkxponent said:
So in what way do i describe surface electrons? I studied them this way only, that the electrons at the surface need least energy to be separated because there potential energy less negative than any other electron.
The relevant energy levels of electrons in metals all correspond to delocalized electrons. Their different energy levels just come from their different momentum and some additional quantum mechanics (band structure).


@BRIX: Simple example: There are some electrons which need 1 eV of energy to get released, some electrons which need 2 eV, electrons which need some energy between that and so on. If you give all those electrons the same energy, they will have different energies afterwards (the same difference as before).
 
Thank you!
 

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