Lim inf lim sup ratio question

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The discussion revolves around proving the expression lim sup(1/An) = 1/(lim inf An) for a sequence An of positive numbers. Participants are exploring the definitions and properties of limit superior and limit inferior in the context of sequences.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the relationship between the limits of the sequence An and the limits of its reciprocal. Questions are raised about the implications of subsequences and the definitions of lim sup and lim inf.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning each other's interpretations and clarifying definitions. Some guidance has been offered regarding subsequences and their limits, but no consensus has been reached on the proof or its validity.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions of limit superior and limit inferior, and how they apply to the sequence in question. There is a noted concern about the applicability of the proof to the entire sequence versus specific subsequences.

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i am given a siquence An of positive numbers

how to prove this expression:

lim sup(1/An)= 1/(lim inf An)

lim inf is the infimum of the group of the limits of the sequences
lim sup is the supremum of the group of the limits of the sequences

those groups of limits doesn't have to be connected to one another
then so is their limits

its like saying that inf Xn=1/sup Xn for every sequence

??
 
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transgalactic said:
i am given a siquence An of positive numbers

how to prove this expression:

lim sup(1/An)= 1/(lim inf An)
Let A= lim inf An. Then given any [itex]\epsilon> 0[/itex] there exist a subsequence of An whose limit is within [itex]\epsilon[/itex] of A. What can you say about 1/An for that subsequence?

lim inf is the infimum of the group of the limits of the sequences
lim sup is the supremum of the group of the limits of the sequences

those groups of limits doesn't have to be connected to one another
then so is their limits
What? Unless I am misunderstanding you, those "groups of limits" are exactly the same! They are both "the limits of all convergent subsequences".

its like saying that inf Xn=1/sup Xn for every sequence
Do you mean every subsequence of a specific Xn? In any case, no this does not say anything like that.
 
if i am given e>0 for which |An-A|<e
so after some N values all the An are will be between A+e and A-e

so all the limits of every sub sequence of An will be between A+e and A-e
so when i write 1/(An) :
after N values the values of the limits will go from 1/(A+e) to 1/(A-e)

so 1/lim inf(An) will return 1/inf( |An-A| group)
 
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the lim sup(1/An) is
the supremum of the group (1/|An-A| )

the inf is the lowest denominator so it will live the highest number possible

and the sup is by definition will that the highest number

so its a correct math proof??

what mathematical expressions do i miss ?

what bothers me is :
my proof will work for a group of limits
but we are dealing with An which is not
 
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