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The discussion centers on the calculation of the roots of the equation for the circular orbit radius, ##r_c##, in the context of Schwarzschild geometry as the angular momentum ##J## approaches infinity. It is established that for large values of ##J##, the equation simplifies to ##r_c = \frac{J^2}{GM}## for the positive root, while the negative root approaches zero. To derive the value of ##3GM## for the negative root, participants suggest using a Taylor expansion of the square root, specifically the approximation ##\sqrt{1-\epsilon} \approx 1 - \frac{\epsilon}{2}##.

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Homework Statement


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To take the ##lim J \to \infty ##, what are the two roots of ##r_c## in this case...

So I believe it says' ##J## big enough it had 2 solutions' is basically saying just avoiding the imaginary solutions i.e. ## J^4 \geq 12G^2M^2J^2 ## (equality for one route obvs).

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The Attempt at a Solution


So I believe it says' ##J## big enough it had 2 solutions' is basically saying just avoiding the imaginary solutions i.e. ## J^4 \geq 12G^2M^2J^2 ## (equality for one route obvs).

If I write it as

##r_c= \frac{J^2 \pm \sqrt{J^4}\sqrt{1-\frac{12G^2M^2}{J^2}}}{2GM}##

then as ##J \to \infty ## the last term vanishes and for the + root clearly get ## \frac{J^2}{GM} ## , the first given in 3.48.

However for the - root I would get ##0##. I have no idea how to get ##3GM## , do I need to do some sort of expansion?

Many thanks
 

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binbagsss said:

Homework Statement


[/B]
To take the ##lim J \to \infty ##, what are the two roots of ##r_c## in this case...

So I believe it says' ##J## big enough it had 2 solutions' is basically saying just avoiding the imaginary solutions i.e. ## J^4 \geq 12G^2M^2J^2 ## (equality for one route obvs).

Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution


So I believe it says' ##J## big enough it had 2 solutions' is basically saying just avoiding the imaginary solutions i.e. ## J^4 \geq 12G^2M^2J^2 ## (equality for one route obvs).

If I write it as

##r_c= \frac{J^2 \pm \sqrt{J^4}\sqrt{1-\frac{12G^2M^2}{J^2}}}{2GM}##

then as ##J \to \infty ## the last term vanishes and for the + root clearly get ## \frac{J^2}{GM} ## , the first given in 3.48.

However for the - root I would get ##0##. I have no idea how to get ##3GM## , do I need to do some sort of expansion?

Many thanks

Yes, you need to expand the square-root, using ##\sqrt{1-\epsilon} \approx 1 - \frac{\epsilon}{2} + ...##
 

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