Limit of a trigonometric function

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of a trigonometric function as x approaches 0, specifically the function f(x) = 3x / sin(5x). Participants explore various approaches to evaluate this limit, referencing known limits related to sine functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Some participants suggest using substitution to simplify the limit, specifically letting u = 5x. Others discuss rewriting the function to facilitate the limit evaluation. There are also inquiries about similar limit problems involving different trigonometric functions and the appropriate substitutions to use.

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Participants have shared several methods for approaching the limit problem, including rewriting the function and using known limits. There is an ongoing exploration of related problems, with some participants expressing confusion about substitutions and notation. Guidance has been offered regarding the application of known limits and the importance of careful manipulation of expressions.

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Some participants mention difficulties with notation and substitutions in related limit problems, indicating a need for clarification on these concepts. There is also a reference to homework constraints that may affect the approach to these problems.

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Homework Statement



Find the limit as x approaches 0 of

f(x) = 3x / sin 5x

Homework Equations



I might have to use the fact that "the lim of x approaches 0 of sin x/x = 1"

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know how to start to solve the expresion, I would appreciate any help.
thanks.
 
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Substitute u=5x. So u also approaches 0. Then use lim u/sin(u)=1 as u->0.
 
Jimmy84 said:

Homework Statement



Find the limit as x approaches 0 of

f(x) = 3x / sin 5x
You can rewrite f(x) as
f(x) = 3/5*5x/sin5x and the find the limit.
 
A good explanation of this problem lies in this https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=305154".

I think the best advice is to combine the above two suggestions. Rewrite the limit as
[tex]\lim_{x\to0} \frac{3x}{\sin 5x} = \lim_{x\to0} \frac{3}{5} \frac{5x}{\sin 5x} = \frac{3}{5}\lim_{x\to0} \frac{5x}{\sin 5x}[/tex]

Now let u=5x, and follow the example shown in the posted link.
 
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thanks a lot guys, the explanation you gave in the other post were useful for me, my book didnt explain that way of substitution a lot.


right now I am having a difficult time subtituting this:

1.) f(x) 3x^2 / 1 - cos 1/2 x^2

I think that for this problem I got to use the fact that x - cos x / x = 0


and
2.) g(x) sin x /x^2


at first sight, these problems arent substutited in the same was as you described in the previous post though. Sometimes when I try to substitute terms I get all confused and end up mading up answers for the trigonometric functions, I was wondering if there are certain substitution steps that I could use for most of the trigonometric functions? like the one you described in the previous posts.

take care and thanks a lot.
 
Jimmy84 said:
1.) f(x) 3x^2 / 1 - cos 1/2 x^2

I think that for this problem I got to use the fact that x - cos x / x = 0

is this supposed to be

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{3x^2}{1-cos\frac{x^2}{2}}[/tex]


Jimmy84 said:
2.) g(x) sin x /x^2

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{sinx}{x^2}[/tex]


if that is the question then try using the fact that 1/x2 = (1/x)*(1/x)
and

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x)g(x) = \lim_{x \rightarrow a}f(x) * \lim_{x \rightarrow a} g(x)[/tex]
 
rock.freak667 said:
is this supposed to be

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{3x^2}{1-cos\frac{x^2}{2}}[/tex]




[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{sinx}{x^2}[/tex]


if that is the question then try using the fact that 1/x2 = (1/x)*(1/x)
and

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x)g(x) = \lim_{x \rightarrow a}f(x) * \lim_{x \rightarrow a} g(x)[/tex]

the second problem is right, the first one is 3x^2 / (1-cos 1/2 x)^2
sorry I am having problems with the notation.
 
Then both multiply and divide the numerator by 1/4 to get
[tex]\frac{12\frac{x^2}{4}}{\left(1- cos \frac{x}{2}\right)^2}= 12\left(\frac{\frac{x}{2}}{1- cos(\frac{x}{2})}\right)^2[/itex] <br /> and use the fact that <br /> [tex]\lim_{a\rightarrow 0}\frac{1- cos(u)}{u}= 0[/itex]<br /> But note that your fraction is the reciprocal of that- that's very important here![/tex][/tex]
 

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