Limit of critical points of algebraic functions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of critical points of algebraic functions as the degree of the function increases. Participants explore the conditions under which these critical points may migrate towards specific geometric locations, such as the unit circle, and seek to understand the underlying proofs or references related to this phenomenon.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Jack introduces the algebraic function f(z,w) and notes a reference suggesting that as the degree n increases, critical points may migrate to the unit circle or other circles depending on the coefficients a_i.
  • Some participants propose that additional hypotheses may be necessary to justify the migration of roots, as the absence of conditions on a_n does not inherently lead to special behavior of the roots.
  • Jack shares an observation of a 30-degree function where the critical points appear to congregate around the unit circle, despite the lack of a clear reference.
  • Another participant points to a specific paper that may relate to the discussion about critical points of algebraic functions.
  • Jack acknowledges the relevance of the paper to the critical points, noting that these points correspond to the zeros of the resultant of f(z,w) and its partial derivative with respect to w.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of additional hypotheses for the migration of critical points, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the conditions required for such behavior.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions necessary for the migration of critical points, as well as the dependence on the definitions of the coefficients a_i and their degrees.

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Hi guys,

I have questions about algebraic functions and not sure where to ask. Hope it's ok here.

Given the algebraic function

f(z,w)=a_0(z)+a_1(z)w+\cdots+a_n(z)w^n=0

I recall seeing a reference that stated as n increases, the critical points of the function migrate to the unit circle or they migrate to some other circle depending on the orders of a_i. Not sure what. However, the trend is nicely suggestive by the four plots below for n=5, 10, 15, 20 where the degree of each a_i is also 5, 10, 15, and 20 respectively and where the set of points is where the number of roots of f(z_0,w)=0 is less than n. This I compute by setting the resultant of f(z,w) and it's partial with respect to w both equal to zero and that happens only when there is a root of multiplicity greater than one or the point z_0 is a solution to a_n(z)=0. I'm now unable to find that reference and was hoping someone could help me.

May I ask what exactly do the critical points tend to and how is this proven?

Thanks,
Jack
 

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there must be some more hypotheses, since if there is no other condition on an, there is no reason for its roots to migrate anywhere special.
 
Ok. I'll try back-tracking some more with my references. Still though, it's hard to ignore the trend. Below is a random 30-degree function with each coefficient a_n also 30-degree with coefficients of a_n between -9 and 9. They do seem to be congregating around the unit circle.
 

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Ok. Thanks a lot. I can see how that would relate to the critical points of an algebraic function since those points are the zeros of the resultant of f(z,w) and f_w and the resultant is a polynomial in z.
 
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