Limit of one exponential function

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of the expression \( x^{k}\mathrm{e}^{-ax^n} \) as \( x \to +\infty \), where \( a, k, n \) are positive real numbers. Participants explore the growth rates of exponential and polynomial functions, and the application of L'Hôpital's rule in this context.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for help in finding the limit of \( x^{k}\mathrm{e}^{-ax^n} \) as \( x \to +\infty \), expressing difficulty even in the case of specific values for \( k, a, n \).
  • Another participant states that \( e^x \) grows faster than any power of \( x \), suggesting this is crucial to the limit evaluation.
  • A participant requests clarification on what is meant by "grows faster" and inquires about the existence of a theorem that relates the growth rates of functions.
  • One participant attempts to provide a more formal definition of growth rates, discussing the concept of one function tending to zero faster than another.
  • Another participant mentions that the formal statement involves limits and suggests looking into "Big O" notation for further understanding.
  • There is a reference to L'Hôpital's rule as a helpful tool for dealing with indeterminate forms in limit evaluations.
  • A participant proposes considering the ratio of \( f(x) = x^k \) and \( g(x) = \mathrm{e}^{ax^n} \) and applying L'Hôpital's rule to find the limit.
  • One participant asserts that it is easy to prove that \( \lim_{x\to\infty}e^{-x}x^n=0 \) and discusses using the power series expansion of the exponential function to support this claim.
  • A participant expresses appreciation for the discussion, indicating that the Taylor series approach was helpful.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the limit, and multiple viewpoints regarding the growth rates of functions and the application of L'Hôpital's rule are presented. The discussion remains exploratory with no definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about specific theorems related to growth rates and the formal application of limit definitions. There is also a lack of consensus on the best approach to evaluate the limit.

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Hello,
How can I find the limit of [tex]x^{k}\mathrm{e}^{-ax^n}[/tex] for [itex]x\to +\infty[/itex].
a,k,n are positive reals.
I even have troubles solving it for k=1, a=1, n=2.
Any hint?
 
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e^x grows faster than any power of x. That's the really important thing here.
 
Thanks, I've heard that explanation somewhere but:

- Can you please formally specify what you mean by "grows faster".

- And also, is there a theorem that proves something about the fact that if one function grows faster than the other, it somehow "wins".
Here x goes to infinity, and exp goes to zero. It's not trivial to deduce that the limit is zero.
 
Now that's a good question... I don't know the specific theorem (although I know there is one), but I mean to say that, for example, and this is actually not exactly formal anyway, that e^-x will fall to zero much faster than x^n will climb to infinity. I'm not sure how to put that formally...
 
The formal statement would be something like:

"Let two functions f(x) and g(x) be given, and let a be some common boundary point of their domain. We say that f(x) tends to zero faster than g(x) if the limit of f(x) / g(x) as x tends to a is zero."

If you want to get really formal, you may want to check out the "Big oh" (and related little o) notation.
 
Now I am thinking, could it be this way?
We consider [itex]f(x)=x^k[/itex] and [itex]g(x)=\mathrm{e}^{ax^n}[/itex].

Consider [itex]f(x)/g(x)[/itex] and apply the De L'Hopital's rule?
 
Yes that will work.
 
Char. Limit said:
Now that's a good question... I don't know the specific theorem (although I know there is one), but I mean to say that, for example, and this is actually not exactly formal anyway, that e^-x will fall to zero much faster than x^n will climb to infinity. I'm not sure how to put that formally...
It's very easy to prove
[tex]\lim_{x\to\infty}e^{-x}x^n=0.[/tex]
Just consider the power series expansion of exp.
[tex]\frac{e^x}{x^n}=\frac{1+x+\frac{x^2}{2!}+...}{x^n}=\underbrace{\frac{1}{x^n}}_{\to 0}+\underbrace{\frac{1}{x^{n-1}}}_{\to 0}+\underbrace{...}_{\to 0}+\frac{1}{n!}+\frac{x}{(n+1)!}+...\ \ \to\infty.[/tex]
 
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I thought the Taylor series would unlock it... thanks for the help.
 

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