Limit of Sum: Understanding the Equation and Correcting Common Mistakes

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of a sum involving an exponential function and its behavior as \( n \) approaches infinity. The specific expression under consideration is \( \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}{\frac{1}{n^2} \sum_{k=1}^{n} ke^{\frac{k}{n}}} \), which raises questions about the validity of certain assumptions regarding limits and sums.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the misconception that the limit of a sum can be treated as the sum of the limits, particularly when individual terms approach zero. There are inquiries about calculating the exact form of the sum \( \sum_{k=1}^{n} ke^{\frac{k}{n}} \) and suggestions for starting points in the calculation.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem, including references to Riemann sums and standard summation techniques. Multiple interpretations of the limit and the sum are being explored, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions underlying the limit and the nature of the terms in the sum, as well as the implications of substituting values in the context of the limit evaluation.

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Homework Statement


## lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}{\frac{1}{n^2} \sum_{k=1}^{n} ke^{\frac{k}{n}}} ##

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## lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}{\frac{1}{n^2} \sum_{k=1}^{n} ke^{\frac{k}{n}}} \\
= lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}{\frac{1}{n^2} (1e^{\frac{1}{n}}+2e^{\frac{2}{n}}+3e^{\frac{3}{n}}+\ldots+ne^{\frac{n}{n}})} \\
= lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}{\frac{e^{\frac{1}{n}}}{n^2} +\frac{2e^{\frac{2}{n}}}{n^2} + \ldots + \frac{e}{n} } = 0 ##

I know the limit equals to 1 (Wolfram). Isn't the limit of a sum equals to the sum of the limits? What am I doing wrong?
 
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It looks like you are saying that since each individual term in the sum goes to zero, the infinite sum of those small terms will also be zero. This is not true.
 
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RUber said:
the infinite sum of those small terms will also be zero. This is not true.
Thank you for the reply. It's a sum of ## n ## terms.

Any tips on how to calculate an exact form of the sum: ## \sum_{k=1}^{n} ke^{\frac{k}{n}} ## ?
 
I would recommend starting with the assumption that the exponential term is on the order of 1.
What is
## \sum_{k=1}^n k ##?
That should get you started in the right direction.
 
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The limit is ##\int_0^1 xe^x \ dx##. Check Rieman sums on Wikipedia to see how it works
 
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Steve Turchin said:
Thank you for the reply. It's a sum of ## n ## terms.

Any tips on how to calculate an exact form of the sum: ## \sum_{k=1}^{n} ke^{\frac{k}{n}} ## ?

For fixed ##n## this is just the sum ##\sum_{k=1}^n k x^k##, where we substitute ##x = e^{1/n}## at the end. That is a standard sum, and can using Google, for example. However, if you want to get it for yourself you can do it using a bit of calculus. For any ##x## (before the substitution) we have
[tex]\sum_{k=1}^n k x^k = \sum_k x \frac{d\, x^k}{dx} = x \frac{d}{dx} \sum_{k=1}^n x^k.[/tex]
Use the well-known formula for the sum ##\sum_{k=1}^n x^k##, take the derivative of that formula wrt ##x##, then multiply by ##x##. Finally, substitute ##x = e^{1/n}##.
 
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