Limiting the torque and safety torque elements

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying components of safety clutches, particularly focusing on a specific element labeled as number 14. Participants explore the mechanical relationships and functions of various parts within the clutches, including input and output shafts, friction surfaces, and potential connections like splines and key slots.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant lists several components of the safety clutches but is uncertain about the identification of element 14.
  • Another participant suggests that element 14 might be a spline.
  • Concerns are raised about the nature of elements 1 and 15, with questions about their characteristics and functions.
  • Participants discuss how elements 5 and 7 transfer power, indicating that element 14 should function similarly.
  • One participant explains the role of a friction disk mounted on the output shaft and describes how torque is transmitted through various components.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of splines for connecting shafts to mechanisms, with one participant speculating on their purpose.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for parts connected to the shaft to maintain a specific angular position relative to each other.
  • Participants consider whether element 14 could be a key slot, leading to a consensus on this possibility based on the drawings presented.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the identification of certain components and the function of splines and key slots, but there remains uncertainty regarding the exact nature of element 14 and the specific roles of some components.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the mechanical relationships and functions of the components are not fully resolved, particularly regarding the characteristics of elements 1, 5, 7, and 14. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of the drawings provided.

Amaelle
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Homework Statement
Identify the elements of the safety clutches (look at the image)
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safety clutches
Greetings
I need to identify the elements of the following safety cluches: we have three different clutches.
I lready identified most of them exept for number 14

Any help would be appreciated !
thank you!
1- output shaft
2-friction surface
3-preloaded spring
4-nut
5- input shaft

6- output shaft
7- input shaft
8-ogival seat
9-sphere
10-preloaded spring
11-nut
12-input shaft
13-output shaft
15-pin
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is it a spline?

thank you!
 
1 seems not to be a shaft.
15 has a special characteristic.
Could 12 and 13 be either?

How are 5 and 7 transferring power to their mechanisms?
It should be the same for 14.
No spline seems to be represented.
 
thank you
5 is the input shaft
1 is the output shaft
on 1 there is a friction disk mounted (not repesented) so there is a friction between the friction disk and the friction surface
the friction surface is connected to the input shaft through a housing which transfer power.for the the middle picture
the input shaft 7 is connected to the preolad spring and the sphere. there is a friction between the sphere and an the ogival seat. the ogival seat is on the output shaft, so this is how the torque is transmitted.
 
Amaelle said:
thank you
5 is the input shaft
1 is the output shaft
on 1 there is a friction disk mounted (not repesented) so there is a friction between the friction disk and the friction surface
the friction surface is connected to the input shaft through a housing which transfer power.for the the middle picture
the input shaft 7 is connected to the preolad spring and the sphere. there is a friction between the sphere and an the ogival seat. the ogival seat is on the output shaft, so this is how the torque is transmitted.
No, no, before all that happens. :smile:
Why are splines needed?
 
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I´m just guessing here,
maybe we need to connect the input shaft to another mechanisam and the spline gives a good way for it?
 
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Perfect!
The part inmediately connected to the shaft needs to have a way to avoid rotating respect to the shaft.
Sometimes, both must keep a specific angular position respect to each other.
Again, we don’t have a spline here.
 
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so no idea about this strange line?
Lnewqban said:
Perfect!
The part inmediately connected to the shaft needs to have a way to avoid rotating respect to the shaft.
Sometimes, both must keep a specific angular position respect to each other.
Again, we don’t have a spline here.
 
can this be a key slot?
 
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thanks a million! was very rewarding discussing with you!
 
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Likewise, Amaelle. :smile:
 
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