LIMITS, continuity piece defined function

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding values for constants a and b that would make a piecewise function continuous everywhere. The function is defined in three segments, with a particular focus on the behavior around the point x = 2, where continuity is questioned.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that for a function to be continuous at a point, it must be defined at that point and the limit as x approaches that point must equal the function value at that point.
  • Another participant suggests that the problem may actually be about making the function continuous on its domain, implying that x = 2 is not included in the domain.
  • A different participant emphasizes the need to ensure that the quadratic and linear portions of the function agree at their endpoints, specifically at x = 3.
  • One participant raises a question about the correct expression for the endpoint of the linear portion, indicating that it could affect the solution.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the possibility of making the function continuous at x = 2, arguing that the limit from below does not exist unless the function is defined differently.
  • This same participant proposes an alternative definition for the function that could allow for continuity, suggesting that if the function were defined as (x^2 - 4)/(x - 2) for x < 2, then continuity might be achievable.
  • They also provide equations that would need to be solved for a and b if the function were defined in a certain way, while stating that if the original problem is correct, then no solution exists.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the continuity of the function at x = 2, with some arguing it is impossible under the given definition while others suggest alternative definitions that could allow for continuity. No consensus is reached on the correct approach or solution.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definition of the function at x < 2, and the implications of the limits as x approaches 2 and 3 are not fully resolved. The discussion highlights the dependency on the specific form of the function provided.

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The question asks to find a value for a and b that makes f continuous everywhere.

f(x)=
\frac{x - 4}{x-2} , where x<2

ax2 - bx + 3 , where 2<x<3

2x - a +b , where x > or = 3


I know that in order for a function to be continuous the limit as x approaches 2 must be equal from the left and right and f(2) must be defined. I don't know how I can possibly make it continuous if x never is equal to 2, then f(x) would not be possible and it would be a removable discontinuity.
There's no answer available at the back of my text or in the solutions manual so it seems a bit fishy to me
Any help solving this would be great (if there even is a solution)
 
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In order for a function to be continuous as a point p, the function must be defined at f(p) and the limit of f(x) as x approaches p must be equal to f(p).

In order for this function we are considering here to be continuous, one of the conditions is that it must be continuous at x = 2. Also notice that when x approaches 2, the function increases beyond all positive bounds. This should help you out.
 
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Most likely they meant make f continuous everywhere on its domain, as x=2 is not part of its domain. Then your only concern is to make sure the line and the quadratic meet at their endpoints.
 
One more point and one question. The function is

<br /> f(x) = \begin{cases}<br /> \frac{x-4}{x-2} &amp; \text{ if } x &lt; 2\\<br /> ax^2 - bx + 3 &amp; \text{ if } 2 &lt; x &lt; 3\\<br /> 2x-a + b &amp; \text{ if } x \ge 3<br /> \end{cases}<br />

As slider142 mentioned, part of the work is going to involve making sure that the quadratic and the linear portions agree when you look at the limits at x = 3. However, this is only one condition, and you have two unknown constants, a, b. The other condition will involve the right-hand limit of the quadratic at x = 2, so you will
need to decide on how

<br /> \lim_{x \to 2^+} f(x)<br />

should bd defined, and this will give you the second condition on a, b.


Now for my question: Is the end of the linear portion -a + b or is it -(a+b)? It doesn't make any difference for us, but it can for your answer.
 
Are you sure you have copied the problem correctly? There is NO way to make the function given continuous at x= 2 because its limit, as x approaches 2 from below, does not exist.

If, however, the function were defined as (x2- 4)/(x- 2) for x less than 2, then it would be possible.

If, in fact, the problem is to find a and b such that
f(x) = \begin{cases}\frac{x^2-4}{x-2} &amp; \text{ if } x &lt; 2\\ax^2 - bx + 3 &amp; \text{ if } 2 &lt; x &lt; 3\\2x-a + b &amp; \text{ if } x \ge 3\end{cases}
then, because, for x not equal to 2, (x2- 4)/(x-2)= (x-2)(x+2)/(x-2), which, for x not equal to 2, is just x+ 2 and has limit 4, from below, at x= 2.

Now, you want to find a and b such that the limit of ax2- bx+ 3, as x approaches 2 from above, is 4. That's easy because that is a polynomial and so its limit is 4a- 2b+ 3. You must have 4a- 2b+ 3= 4.

As x approaches 3, from below, you have 9a- 3b+ 3 and, from above, again because 2x- a+ b is a polynomial, the limit is 6-a+ b.

Assuming that the problem really had (x2-4)/(x-2) rather than(x-4)/(x-2), you must solve the two equations 4a- 2b+ 3= 4 and 9a- 3b+ 3= 6- a+ b for a and b.

If the problem really is what you say, then there is no solution!
 

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