Limits involving trigonometric functions

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The discussion revolves around evaluating limits involving trigonometric functions, specifically the limits of sin^2(3x)/x^2 and 2sin(5x)/(3x-2tan(2x)) as x approaches 0. Participants are exploring their understanding of limits and trigonometric identities.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to evaluate the first limit by manipulating the expression into fractions and applying known limits, expressing uncertainty about their result. For the second limit, they express confusion on how to begin and later attempt to separate the limit into two parts, raising questions about their reasoning and calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide hints and guidance on how to approach the second limit, suggesting the division of both the numerator and denominator by x. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of limits and the behavior of functions as they approach specific values, with some participants clarifying misunderstandings about undefined expressions at certain points.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment that involves limits and trigonometric functions, with some expressing a lack of familiarity with the material. There is an emphasis on understanding the concept of limits as x approaches a value, rather than evaluating the function at that value.

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Homework Statement



1)

lim sin^2(3x)/x^2
x->0

2) lim 2sin5x/(3x-2tan2x)
x->0

Homework Equations



lim sinx/x = 1
x->0lim tanx/x = 1
x->0

The Attempt at a Solution



We just began working with limits, and we haven't covered much of trig functions at all, but our prof gave us these 2 questions to see what we can do with them. I really don't know how to begin with them.

For the first problem i tried to answer it by splitting it into 2 fractions: sin3x/x * sin3x/x then sin3x/3x * sin3x/3x * 9/1 which gave me the answer 9 for it. I'm not sure if that's right though.

I have no clue how to start on the second one. :(
 
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The first one is perfect. For the second, I can hint you towards dividing both the denominator and the numerator by x and using the 2 limits given.
 
bigubau said:
The first one is perfect. For the second, I can hint you towards dividing both the denominator and the numerator by x and using the 2 limits given.

I'm not following you, you mean times it by 1/x or...times x/x...?
 
To divide something by x means to multiply it by 1/x. So you realize that

\frac{7}{6} = \frac{\frac{7}{2}}{\frac{6}{2}}

, right ?
 
bigubau said:
To divide something by x means to multiply it by 1/x. So you realize that

\frac{7}{6} = \frac{\frac{7}{2}}{\frac{6}{2}}

, right ?

Ok so what i did is (2sin5x/x)/((3x-2tan2x)/x) and i separated it into 2 limits so

lim 2sin5x/x , then i do 2sin5x/5x * 5/1 then i get for the top fraction 10
x->0


then for the (3x-2tan2x)/x , i did 3x/x - 2tan2x/x , then i did 2tan2x/2x * 2/1 which gave m 4, then obviously i run into the problem that lim 3x/x when x ->0 is undefined. What did i do wrong?
 
Ironside said:
then for the (3x-2tan2x)/x , i did 3x/x - 2tan2x/x , then i did 2tan2x/2x * 2/1 which gave m 4, then obviously i run into the problem that lim 3x/x when x ->0 is undefined. What did i do wrong?

\displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{3x}{x} = \displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} 3 = ?
 
Limit...does not exist...?
 
Ironside said:
Limit...does not exist...?

Well, you seem to have misinterpret the word 'limit'. The function \frac{3x}{x} is indeed undefined at x = 0.

However, when x tends to 0 (note that: x only tends to 0, i.e x is 'closed enough' to 0, not x = 0), then the function \frac{3x}{x} has the limit of 3. This is because: \frac{3x}{x} = 3, \forall x \neq 0, so when x tends to 0, \frac{3x}{x} \rightarrow 3.

When talking about taking the limit as x tends to some value a, it means that x is near/close enough to a. The function may be undefined at x = a, but may have limit when x tends to a.
 

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