Limits of a Function: Find e1 & -Infinite

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The discussion revolves around evaluating limits of functions involving logarithmic expressions and exponential forms, specifically focusing on the limits as x approaches 0 from the positive side.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the limit of the function (1+x)^(1/x) as x approaches 0 from the right, with some suggesting a transformation involving u = 1/x to facilitate understanding. Others discuss the behavior of ln(x) as x approaches 0, questioning the reasoning behind ln(0+) being negative infinity.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the limits, with some participants providing insights into the properties of logarithmic functions and their behavior near zero. Multiple interpretations of the limits are being discussed, and guidance has been offered regarding the characteristics of logarithmic functions.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the behavior of logarithmic functions, particularly as they approach their limits, and question whether certain properties need to be memorized or can be reasoned through. There is an emphasis on the mathematical analysis aspect of the problem.

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Homework Statement


1. f(x) = (1+x)1/x
lim x->0+ (1+x)1/x

2. lim x->0+ 10+ln(x)

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The Attempt at a Solution


1. lim x->0+ (1+x)1/x

(1+0+)1/0+

I really don't understand how the final answer is e... thanks for helping.

= e12. lim x->0+ 10+ln(x)

ln(0+) = -infinite
10 - infinite = - infinite
I don't understand why ln(x) is - infinite is there any rule for that or that's something I have to know by heart ?
 
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1. If you let [itex]u=\frac{1}{x}[/itex], then [itex]\lim_{x\rightarrow 0+} (1+x)^{\frac{1}{x}}[/itex] transforms into [itex]\lim_{u\rightarrow +\infty}(1+\frac{1}{u})^{u}[/itex]. Does this expression look familiar? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_(mathematical_constant)).
2. Do the same transformation here ( [itex]u=\frac{1}{x}[/itex]). The expression changes to [itex]\lim_{u\rightarrow +\infty}(10+ln(\frac{1}{u}))=10+\lim_{u\rightarrow +\infty}ln(\frac{1}{u})=10-\lim_{u\rightarrow +\infty}ln(u)[/itex].
 
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masterchiefo said:

Homework Statement


1. f(x) = (1+x)1/x
lim x->0+ (1+x)1/x

2. lim x->0+ 10+ln(x)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


1. lim x->0+ (1+x)1/x

(1+0+)1/0+

I really don't understand how the final answer is e... thanks for helping.

= e12. lim x->0+ 10+ln(x)

ln(0+) = -infinite
10 - infinite = - infinite
I don't understand why ln(x) is - infinite is there any rule for that or that's something I have to know by heart ?
For item #2.

I don't know whether or not you want to consider it as " knowing by heart " , but if you're serious about math, physics, engineering, etc., you should be very familiar with the characteristics of logarithmic functions.

ln(x) is strictly increasing, it's domain is the interval ##\displaystyle \ (0,\ \infty) \ ##, it's range is ##\displaystyle \ (-\infty,\ \infty) \ ##.

That's enough to get ##\displaystyle \ \lim_{x\to0^+} \ln(x)=-\infty \ ##.

I or someone else will cover item #1 in a separate post.
 
##x = e^{\ln x}##. In our current problem, ##x## represents the expression your are taking the limit of.
In the process ##x\to 0## , the expression ##\ln (1+x)## is equivalent to ##x##.

E: This is basic mathematical analysis and not about physics. Not being mean, just pointing it out.

Also, usually ##x= e^{\ln |x|}##, however here we approach ##0## strictly from the right side hence the ##x## is positive regardless.
 
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I don't understand why ln(x) is -infinity. Is there any rule for that or is that something I have to know by heart?
You should be able to reason it out. The relation ##y = \ln x## is equivalent to ##x = e^y##. If you want to make x very very small, i.e. close to 0, what kind of value do you have to use for y?
 

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