Limits with the natural logarithm

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating limits involving the natural logarithm, specifically focusing on three limits derived from a known limit as \( x \) approaches 0. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and techniques for evaluating limits without using L'Hôpital's rule.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the known limit \(\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{\ln(1+x)}{x}=1\) and seeks to find three related limits.
  • Another participant suggests using a change of variables for the limits, proposing specific substitutions for each case.
  • A third participant reformulates the first limit involving \(\ln(1-x)\) using a negative substitution, indicating a method to compute it based on the known limit.
  • A later reply expresses satisfaction with the approach, indicating that the problem seems simpler once an example is understood.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the solutions to the limits, and multiple approaches are discussed without resolving the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not specify the assumptions or conditions under which the limits are evaluated, nor do they clarify the steps needed to complete the calculations.

Yankel
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Hello

I have three limits to calculate, based on a given limits. What I know is:

\[\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{ln(1+x)}{x}=1\]

And based on this, I need to find (without L'Hopital rule), the following:

\[\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{ln(1-x)}{x}\]

\[\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{ln(1+x^{2})}{x}\]

\[\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{ln(1+2x)}{x}\]

I can't figure out the technique of moving from the known limits to the ones I need to find.

Thank you in advance !
 
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Hi Yankel,

you can try using change of variables for all of them, i.e $u=-x$ for the first one, $u=x^2$ for the second one, etc.
 
Ok, so we're given $\lim_{x\to0}\frac{\log(1+x)}{x}=1$ and we have

$$\lim_{x\to0}\frac{\log(1-x)}{x}=\lim_{x\to0}\frac{\log(1+(-x))}{x}=-\lim_{x\to0}\frac{\log(1+(-x))}{-x}$$

Can you compute it now? Can you make progress on the others, both with this method and by using substitution as Rido12 suggested?
 
So simple once you see an example...

Thank you !
 

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