Rationale Behind t-Substitution for Evaluating Limits?

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The discussion revolves around the rationale behind using t-substitution for evaluating limits that involve radical expressions. Participants explore how to determine appropriate substitutions for specific limits and the geometric implications of these substitutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that t-substitution can simplify limits by eliminating disturbances caused by roots, proposing that this is a natural choice when dealing with such expressions.
  • One participant questions the geometric interpretation of t-substitution, indicating a lack of understanding in that area.
  • Another participant emphasizes that recognizing algebraic identities can sometimes eliminate the need for substitution, providing an example involving factoring.
  • There is a discussion about the specific choice of substitution for one of the limits, with a participant noting that using LCM power (t12) effectively eliminates all roots in one step.
  • One participant describes t-substitution as a trick to transform limits into more familiar forms that can be evaluated easily.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and effectiveness of t-substitution, with some advocating for its use while others argue for alternative approaches. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best methods for evaluating the limits presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully explore the geometric implications of t-substitution, and there are varying levels of understanding regarding algebraic manipulations that could potentially simplify the limits without substitution.

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How t-substitutions can be determined for any given limits involving radicals?
Hello all,

Given following limits:

  1. ##\lim_{x \rightarrow 1} {\frac {\sqrt x -1} {x^2 - 1}}##
  2. ##\lim_{x \rightarrow 1} {\frac {\sqrt {x+1} - 2} {x - 3}}##
  3. ##\lim_{x \rightarrow 1} {\frac {\sqrt[3] x - \sqrt[4] x} {\sqrt[6] x - \sqrt x}}##
Those limits can be evaluated by letting ##x = t^2##, ##x = t^2 - 1##, and ##x = t^{12}##, respectively for each limits.

I was curious, how such t-substitution (letting x with t) can be determined?

Bagas
 
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This is a case of "Get rid of what disturbs most!" In these examples, it are the roots which disturb. So choosing a substitution which resolves the roots is a natural choice.

Do you understand, what such a substitution does geometrically?
 
bagasme said:
Summary:: How t-substitutions can be determined for any given limits involving radicals?

Hello all,

Given following limits:

  1. ##\lim_{x \rightarrow 1} {\frac {\sqrt x -1} {x^2 - 1}}##
  2. ##\lim_{x \rightarrow 1} {\frac {\sqrt {x+1} - 2} {x - 3}}##
  3. ##\lim_{x \rightarrow 1} {\frac {\sqrt[3] x - \sqrt[4] x} {\sqrt[6] x - \sqrt x}}##
Those limits can be evaluated by letting ##x = t^2##, ##x = t^2 - 1##, and ##x = t^{12}##, respectively for each limits.

I was curious, how such t-substitution (letting x with t) can be determined?

Bagas

You don't need to do a substitution, just recognise how the rules of algebra work. For example:

##(x^2 - 1) = (x - 1)(x + 1) = (\sqrt x - 1)(\sqrt x + 1)(x + 1) \ \ ## (for ##x > 0##)
 
fresh_42 said:
This is a case of "Get rid of what disturbs most!" In these examples, it are the roots which disturb. So choosing a substitution which resolves the roots is a natural choice.

Do you understand, what such a substitution does geometrically?
I don't know the geometry side.

Regarding t-substitution for formula 3), why had I substituted with LCM power (##t^{12}##)?
 
bagasme said:
I don't know the geometry side.

Regarding t-substitution for formula 3), why had I substituted with LCM power (##t^{12}##)?
Because it eliminated all roots in one step.Geometrically it means that you run at a different pace towards the limit, that's all.
 
It's a trick basically to turn the limits into ones you've seen before and can evaluate easily.
 

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