Line integral of a vector field

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The discussion revolves around calculating a line integral of a vector field, specifically for the vector field F(r) = Φ^ over a circular path in the xy-plane. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the differential element "dl" and its representation in terms of the angle Φ.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for a parametrization of the curve for the line integral, with suggestions to express dl in terms of a parameter t. There is uncertainty about how to relate the angle Φ to the coordinates of the curve.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on finding a suitable parametrization and expressing the differential element. The original poster has made progress in understanding the use of cylindrical coordinates but still expresses uncertainty about the differentiation process.

Contextual Notes

The problem is constrained by the requirement to evaluate the integral along a specific circular path in the xy-plane, and there is an emphasis on using appropriate coordinate systems for the evaluation.

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Homework Statement


Consider the vector field F(r) = Φ^
(a) Calculate ∫ F⋅dl where C is a circle of radius R (oriented counterclockwise) in the xy-plane centered on the origin.

Homework Equations


maybe
Φ^ = -sinΦx^ + cosΦy^

The Attempt at a Solution


not really a solution. i am just stuck at what "dl" should be. if i go by my notes the "dl" is equal ∂l/∂θ (θ). but in our example its in terms of θ. so i don't know if "dl" here is equal to -sinΦx^ + cosΦy^. but can i evaluate the integral from 0 to 2π with Φ and not θ.

thanks.
 
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In order to perform a line integral, find a parametrisation of the curve you are integrating along. You can then express ##d\vec l## according to
$$ d\vec l = \frac{d\vec r}{dt} dt$$
where ##t## is the curve parameter.

So first order of business: Can you find a parametrisation of the curve?
 
Well I think t is Φ
 
You are on the right track, but you must be much more specific. A given t should uniquely identify a point on the curve, you might have φ = t, but what are the other coordinates for a given t?
 
I also know the radius, R.
 
So write down the following functions of t:
##\phi(t) = \ldots##, ##\theta(t)= \ldots##, ##r(t)= \ldots##
Please try to do things in a systematic and proper way, it will help you in the long run.
 
ok i figured it out after some note digging. but i still don't quite understand how to solve for dr/dt dt.but i just i guess just had a "duh" moment. i shouldve realized that because it centered on the xy plane i can just use cylindrical coordinates.

i can just treat it like the base of a cylinder. so dl would equal ρΦ^dΦ evaluated from 0 to 2π and ρ = R.

so the solution to the problem is simply R2π.

you for the replies.
 

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