Line Integral of circle in counterclockwise direction

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a line integral of a vector field along a circular path in a counterclockwise direction. The integral involves terms that are products of the coordinates raised to various powers, specifically focusing on the symmetry properties of the integrand.

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  • The original poster attempts to evaluate the integral using parameterization and integration over the interval from 0 to 2π. Some participants discuss the implications of symmetry in the context of the integral's value, while others explore the use of Green's theorem to analyze the situation further.

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Participants have provided insights regarding the symmetry of the integrand, suggesting that this symmetry leads to a zero result for the integral. There are multiple approaches being discussed, including direct evaluation and theoretical considerations involving Green's theorem.

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There is mention of a class of functions that yield zero integrals on closed curves, with a clarification that the specific case under discussion primarily relies on symmetry rather than this broader principle.

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My attempt:
Let ##x=a \cos \theta## and ##y=a \sin \theta##

$$\int_{L} xy^2 dx-x^2ydy$$
$$=\int_{0}^{2\pi} \left( (a\cos \theta)(a\sin \theta)^2 (-a\sin \theta)-(a\cos \theta)^2 (a \sin \theta)(a\cos \theta)\right) d\theta$$
$$=-a^4 \int_{0}^{2\pi}\left( \sin^3 \theta \cos \theta+\cos^3 \theta \sin \theta \right) d\theta$$

I get zero as the result of the integration. Is it possible? Thanks
 
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Yes, the integral is zero by symmetry.
 
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Orodruin said:
Yes, the integral is zero by symmetry.
To qualify this:

Take the first term and consider the integral along the lower half-circle. You obtain ##y^2 = a^2 - x^2## and can parametrize it by ##-a < x < a##. The integral along the lower half-circle is therefore
$$
\int_{-a}^a y^2 x \, dx = \int_{-a}^a (a^2 - x^2) x \, dx
$$
which is an integral of an odd function over an even interval and therefore zero. A similar argument applies to the upper half-circle and for the integral of the other term.

Alternatively, you can use Green's formula and conclude that
$$
\oint_\Gamma \left(y^2 x \, dx - x^2 y \, dy\right)
= \int_{S} \left(-\frac{\partial(x^2 y)}{\partial x} - \frac{\partial(y^2 x)}{\partial y}\right) dx\, dy
= - 4 \int_{S} xy \, dx\, dy,
$$
where ##S## is the disc enclosed by the circle. This integral is obviously zero since the integrand is odd in both ##x## and ##y## whereas ##S## is symmetric with respect to ##x \to -x## as well as ##y \to -y##.
 
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Thank you very much for the help and explanation Orodruin
 
FYI, there is a very large class of functions that will give zero integrals on closed curves. They are related to potentials and to analytic functions with no enclosed singularities.
 
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FactChecker said:
FYI, there is a very large class of functions that will give zero integrals on closed curves. They are related to potentials and to analytic functions with no enclosed singularities.
Should be pointed out that this is not the case here though. The zero really comes from symmetry. This may be seen from the fact that the integrand of the area integral in Green’s formula above is not zero so there will exist areas such that the integral around them are non-zero.

(Yes, I tried that first before arguing symmetry 😉)
 
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