Linear Algebra - Change of Bases

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The discussion revolves around a linear algebra problem involving a change of bases from B1 to B2. The original poster seeks guidance on determining the representing matrix T for this change, expressing uncertainty about the process involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the concept of change-of-basis matrices, questioning how to derive the matrix from one basis to another. There is discussion about using standard basis representations and the relationships between different basis matrices.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts and reasoning. Some have proposed potential matrices and methods for calculating the change of basis, while others express confusion about the notation and concepts involved. There is a collaborative effort to clarify the steps needed to find the solution.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of clarity regarding the notation used for change-of-basis matrices and how they relate to the basis sets provided. Participants are working under the assumption that they need to calculate the change-of-basis matrices for B1 and B2 relative to the standard basis.

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Hi, again another problem:

Let B1 = {( \stackrel{1}{3}),(\stackrel{1}{2})} and


B_{2} = [ \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}( \stackrel{1}{1}), \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (\stackrel{-1}{1}) ]


Determine the representing matrix T = K_{B_{2},B_{1}} \in \Re^{2\times2} for the change from B1 coordinates to B2 coordinates.

I have no idea what i should do here. I ve found how to calculate the representing matrix from a domain to a codomain.
Is this the same way? Can you give me atleast a hint, please ^^.

Thx Mumba

PS. Sorry, it looks really strange. I don't know how to formate this better.
 
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This reminds me of quantum mechanics 1, a course that crushed m average and of which I remember very little.

I tried a couple things and the answer i got was 1/sqrt(2) ( 2 5 )
( 0 1 )
for the matrix T. But as i said again, that's just ag uess
 
If S denotes the standard basis for \mathbb{R}^2, do you know how to find

K_{S,B_1} and K_{S,B_2}?

If so, then observe that

K_{B_2,B_1} = K_{B_2,S} K_{S,B_1} = K_{S,B_2}^{-1}K_{S,B_1}
 
No, i don't even know what K is supposed to be...
 
Mumba said:
No, i don't even know what K is supposed to be...

I am using your notation.

K_{S,B_1}

is the change-of-basis matrix that transforms B_1 coordinates to S coordinates. I suggested doing it this way because you already know how to express B_1 and B_2 in S coordinates: that is what you are given.
 
So i should calculate the change of base matrix for B1 to S and the inverse of the change of base matrix for B2 to S coordinates?
And multiply this to get my result?

Ok i ll try to find out how to calculate the change of base matrix ^^
Thx
 
Is [text]K_{S,B1}[/tex] not the same as B1?
And the same for B2? So i calculate the inverste and multply them and then I am finished?
 
the i get as matrix:

4/sqrt(2) 3/sqrt(2)
2/sqrt(2) 1/sqrt(2)

correct?
 
Mumba said:
Is [text]K_{S,B1}[/tex] not the same as B1?
And the same for B2? So i calculate the inverste and multply them and then I am finished?

Well, B_1 is a basis (set of vectors), not a matrix, so what you said is not exactly correct. However, I think what you are trying to say is this:

K_{S,B_1} is the matrix whose columns are the basis vectors from B_1 expressed in S coordinates, namely

K_{S,B_1} = \left[\begin{array}{cc}1 & 1 \\ 3 & 2\end{array}\right]

and similarly for K_{S,B_2}.

So yes, now you can find K_{B_2,B_1} as I described earlier.
 
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Coool thanks a lot, easy this way.
:D
 
  • #11
Mumba said:
the i get as matrix:

4/sqrt(2) 3/sqrt(2)
2/sqrt(2) 1/sqrt(2)

correct?

I get the same answer.
 
  • #12
Cool :)
Thx jbunniii
 

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