Linear Algebra: Exercise 6 - Proving Equivalence of Systems

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The discussion revolves around a problem from 'Linear Algebra' by Hoffman and Kunze, specifically exercise 6, which asks to prove that two homogeneous systems of linear equations in two unknowns are equivalent if they share the same solutions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the definition of equivalence between systems of equations and question whether the reciprocal of the initial statement holds true. There are attempts to derive a system of equations from a proposed relationship between the two systems.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring the implications of the problem and questioning the assumptions made in the initial approaches. There is a focus on understanding the conditions under which the two systems are equivalent, and guidance has been offered to clarify the relationships between the coefficients of the equations.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the criteria for equivalence and the existence of solutions to the derived system of equations. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the proof direction aligns with the problem's requirements.

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This is a question from 'Linear Algebra' by Hoffman and Kunze, and it's exercise 6 at page 5:

Question: Prove that if two homogeneous systems of linear equations in two unknowns
have the same solutions, then they are equivalent.

Attempt: I've tried some approaches but I couldn't even start.

Does anyone have a clue? Is there any solutions manual for this book?
Thanks
 
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Hi carlosbgois! :smile:

carlosbgois said:
This is a question from 'Linear Algebra' by Hoffman and Kunze, and it's exercise 6 at page 5:

Question: Prove that if two homogeneous systems of linear equations in two unknowns
have the same solutions, then they are equivalent.

Attempt: I've tried some approaches but I couldn't even start.

Does anyone have a clue? Is there any solutions manual for this book?
Thanks

The solution is a bit complicated, but let's guide you through it.

Firstly, two systems of equations are equivalent if each row of the system is a linear combination of the rows of the other system.

So take two systems

\left\{\begin{array}{c} ax+by=0\\ cx+dy=0\end{array}\right.~\text{and}~\left\{\begin{array}{c} a^\prime x+b^\prime y=0\\ c^\prime x+d^\prime y=0\end{array}\right.

So you must prove that there exists \alpha,\beta such that

ax+by=\alpha (a^\prime x+b^\prime y)+\beta (c^\prime x+d^\prime)

This leads us to the following system of equations

<br /> \left\{<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> \alpha a^\prime+\beta c^\prime = a\\<br /> \alpha b^\prime+\beta d^\prime = b<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right.<br />

And we must prove that this system has a solution. So, how do we do that? Well, by solving the system!
 
Thanks for helping, but I didn't quite grasp it yet.

You started supposing that the two systems are equivalent, and then managed to show that they have the same solutions, right? But is the reciprocal also true? Because I need to prove that if they have the same answer they are equivalent, not the inverse as done.

And I also didn't get how

ax+by=\alpha (a^\prime x+b^\prime y)+\beta (c^\prime x+d^\prime)

Leads us to

<br /> \left\{<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> \alpha a^\prime+\beta c^\prime = a\\<br /> \alpha b^\prime+\beta d^\prime = b<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right.<br />
 
carlosbgois said:
Thanks for helping, but I didn't quite grasp it yet.

You started supposing that the two systems are equivalent, and then managed to show that they have the same solutions, right? But is the reciprocal also true? Because I need to prove that if they have the same answer they are equivalent, not the inverse as done.

What I'm trying to find out first is a criterion of when the two systems are equivalent. So far, we have shown that the two systems are equivalent if and only if

<br /> \left\{<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> \alpha a^\prime+\beta c^\prime = a\\<br /> \alpha b^\prime+\beta d^\prime = b<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right.<br />

has a solution. So what I ask from you is to find out what this solution is and when it exists.

And I also didn't get how

ax+by=\alpha (a^\prime x+b^\prime y)+\beta (c^\prime x+d^\prime)

Leads us to

<br /> \left\{<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> \alpha a^\prime+\beta c^\prime = a\\<br /> \alpha b^\prime+\beta d^\prime = b<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right.<br />

Group all the x-terms and all the y-terms. The equality of the coefficient of the x-terms and of the y-terms is this system. Thus, if we work out

ax+by=\alpha (a^\prime x+b^\prime y)+\beta (c^\prime x+d^\prime),

then we get

ax+by=(\alpha a^\prime+\beta c^\prime) x+(\alpha b^\prime +\beta d^\prime )

So since the coefficients of the x-terms must equal each other, we get that

a=\alpha a^\prime+\beta c^\prime

Analogous with the coefficients of the y-terms.
 

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