Linear Algebra Finding Basis for space.

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding a basis for a subspace W of R^4 defined by the equations x + z = 0 and 2y + w = 0. Participants are tasked with determining the basis and dimension of this subspace.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss different representations of the basis vectors, with some using variables z and w while others consider x and y. There is a focus on linear independence and the correctness of the basis found.

Discussion Status

Some participants express agreement with the basis identified, while others question the grading of the original poster's solution. There is a suggestion to seek clarification from the teacher regarding the grading discrepancy.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for confusion in grading, as the original poster received different evaluations for similar work on a midterm. There is also mention of specific variable substitutions that may affect the interpretation of the basis.

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Homework Statement


Says, The set W = {(x,y,z,w) : x+z=0, 2y+w=0} is a subspace of R^4. Find a basis for W, and state the dimension.

The Attempt at a Solution



What I did:

W= {(-z,-w/2,z,w): z,w are in R}
= {z(-1,0,1,0) + w(0,-1/2, 0, 1)}
= span {(-1,0,1,0), (0,-1/2,0,1)}

(-1,0,1,0), (0,-1/2,0,1) is LI, because not a scalar multiple. Basis has dimension 2.

I got this wrong.

What is wrong? I guess I could have used the other variables, x and y, instead of z,w Would that have been correct? Or should I go to my teacher and get some marks, brought me down 7 percent?

Thanks
 
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This seems right.
I used w= -2y and got [ 0 1 0 -2] which is essentially the same basis. i guess u used y=-w/2.
And ur first base is right
 
fireb said:
This seems right.
I used w= -2y and got [ 0 1 0 -2] which is essentially the same basis. i guess u used y=-w/2.
And ur first base is right


Yeah, I just used x=-z and y=-(w/2)
 
The vectors you got are a basis for W, and the dimension of this subspace of R^4 is 2. You should definitely talk to your teacher and ask why you lost points for this problem. I got exactly the same vectors you did.
 
Mark44 said:
The vectors you got are a basis for W, and the dimension of this subspace of R^4 is 2. You should definitely talk to your teacher and ask why you lost points for this problem. I got exactly the same vectors you did.

Awesome, thanks! I will. And the odd thing is, on the midterm it is marked right and then crossed out and marked wrong.
 

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