Linear Algebra Help, Area of a Parallelogram using vectors

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The discussion focuses on calculating the area of a parallelogram defined by the four-dimensional vectors v = {1, 1, 3, 1} and w = {-2, -1, 2, 2}. The area is determined using the formula Area = |v dot w| * sin(theta), where theta is derived from the cosine inverse of the dot product normalized by the magnitudes of the vectors. A key point is that the cross product cannot be applied to vectors outside of R^3, leading to alternative methods for area calculation. The final area computed was confirmed to be √131.

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Homework Statement


Find the area of the parallelogram defined by the vectors

v = {1 1 3 1}
w = {-2 -1 2 2}

Homework Equations


Area = v dot w * sin(theta)
theta = cos^-1(v dot w / |v|*|w|)

The Attempt at a Solution


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General Solution:

Area of a parallelogram for non-R^3 vectors = v dot w * sin(cos^-1(v dot w / (|v|*|w|)))
 
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If v and w are two vectors representing two adjacent sides of the parallelogram, then the area is the magnitude of the cross product of those two vectors.
 
jegues said:
If v and w are two vectors representing two adjacent sides of the parallelogram, then the area is the magnitude of the cross product of those two vectors.

You can't perform cross product on vectors outside of R^3
 
Axoren said:
You can't perform cross product on vectors outside of R^3

Whoops! Sorry, I didn't notice they were 4 dimensional vectors.
 
I got it, some how. Updated original post.
 
Axoren said:
I got it, some how. Updated original post.

What do you mean you got it some how... What did you do? Alegbra mistake?
 
jegues said:
What do you mean you got it some how... What did you do? Alegbra mistake?

I didn't depend on the cross product and started using other equations around the internet.

I provided them in the original post.
 
I don't think that's right. You can let

A=\begin{bmatrix} 1 & -2 \\ 1 & -1 \\ 3 & 2 \\ 1 & 2 \end{bmatrix}

and then the volume is:

V = \sqrt{det \left(A^TA \right)}

which isn't 5.

EDIT: Oh, I see you got it with some other formula. Was the answer \sqrt{131} ?
 

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