Linear Algebra - Matrix Inverse with an unknown element

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The discussion revolves around determining the values of r for which the matrix \begin{bmatrix} 2 & 4 & 2 \\ 1 & r & 3 \\ 1 & 2 & 1\end{bmatrix} is invertible. Participants are exploring concepts related to matrix inverses and the conditions under which a matrix can be inverted.

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  • Participants are attempting to apply Gauss-Jordan elimination to the augmented matrix to find conditions for invertibility. There are questions about the correctness of the matrix setup and the elimination steps being taken. Some participants suggest specific row operations to simplify the matrix further.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on matrix manipulation techniques. There is a divergence in interpretations regarding the matrix's structure, particularly concerning the similarity of rows and its implications for invertibility.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the matrix's entries, with one participant questioning the validity of the matrix due to apparent row equivalence. This raises concerns about the determinant and the conditions for invertibility.

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Homework Statement


Find all [itex]r[/itex] so that the matrix [itex]\begin{bmatrix} 2 & 4 & 2 \\ 1 & r & 3 \\ 1 & 2 & 1\end{bmatrix}[/itex] is inversable.

Homework Equations


Gauss-Jordan elimination on a matrix augmented with an identity matrix.

The Attempt at a Solution



[itex]\begin{bmatrix} 2 & 4 & 2 & | & 1 & 0 & 0 \\ 1 & r & 3 & | & 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 1 & 2 & 1 & | & 0 & 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}[/itex](1/2)R1

[itex]\begin{bmatrix} 1 & 2 & 1 & | & \frac{1}{2} & 0 & 0 \\ 1 & r & 3 & | & 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 1 & 2 & 1 & | & 0 & 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}[/itex]

R2 - R1
R3 - R1

[itex]\begin{bmatrix} 1 & 2 & 1 & | &\frac{1}{2} & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & r - 2 & 2 & | &-\frac{1}{2} & 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 & | & -\frac{1}{2} & 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}[/itex]

And this is where I am stumped. Any bump in the right direction will be appreciated.
 
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Jonmundsson said:

Homework Statement


Find all [itex]r[/itex] so that the matrix [itex]\begin{bmatrix} 2 & 4 & 2 \\ 1 & r & 3 \\ 1 & 2 & 1\end{bmatrix}[/itex] is inversable.
That would be "invertible."
Jonmundsson said:

Homework Equations


Gauss-Jordan elimination on a matrix augmented with an identity matrix.


The Attempt at a Solution



[itex]\begin{bmatrix} 2 & 4 & 2 & | & 1 & 0 & 0 \\ 1 & r & 3 & | & 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 1 & 2 & 1 & | & 0 & 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}[/itex]


(1/2)R1

[itex]\begin{bmatrix} 1 & 2 & 1 & | & \frac{1}{2} & 0 & 0 \\ 1 & r & 3 & | & 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 1 & 2 & 1 & | & 0 & 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}[/itex]
You're sort of doing things at random. Instead, add -1 times row 1 to row 2 to eliminate the leading entry in row 2. Add -1 times row 1 to row 3 to eliminate the leading entry in row 3.

IOW, R2 <-- -R1 + R2, and R3 <-- -R1 + R3.

Next, use the leading entry in row 2 to eliminate the entries above and below it.

Finally, use the remaining entry in row 3 to eliminate the two entries above it.
Jonmundsson said:
R2 - R1
R3 - R1

[itex]\begin{bmatrix} 1 & 2 & 1 & | &\frac{1}{2} & 0 & 0 \\ 1 & r & 3 & | &-\frac{1}{2} & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 & | & -\frac{1}{2} & 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}[/itex]

And this is where I am stumped. Any bump in the right direction will be appreciated.
 
Sorry. I posted my matrixes as A and I before I thought of a way to augment A and it got all messed up. I think I've fixed all the errors now.
 
Are you sure you have the right matrix? I just noticed that the first and third rows are the same. That means that your matrix is row-equivalent to one with zeroes in the bottom row, which means that its determinant is zero, which means that it is not invertible.
 
It's the right matrix. I guess the answer is that it isn't invertible.
 

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