Linear Algebra: Solving a system with free variables

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The discussion focuses on solving a linear algebra problem involving a system with free variables. Participants suggest using row reduction to transform the augmented matrix into reduced row echelon form, which allows for expressing variables in terms of free variables. The mention of the parameter "s" indicates that the solution will involve a vector plus a parameter multiplied by another vector. The original poster struggles with understanding the role of "s" and the implications of their calculations, particularly regarding the relationships between the variables. Ultimately, the key takeaway is that the solution can be expressed in terms of free variables, leading to a more general solution format.
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Here is a picture of the problem.
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Can anyone give me some hints on the problem? I've looked in my textbook, but I don't know what "s" means. I found stuff on the parametric vector form, and it gives me the equation x = su + tv, but I don't see any "t"'s in this problem.

I first tried setting up an augmented matrix with

[ 1 1 0 0 | -3 ]
[ 0 1 1 0 | -3 ]
[ 0 0 1 1 | -4 ]
[ 1 0 0 1 | -4 ]

And I solved for the four variables, like:
x1 = -3 - x2
x2 = -3 - x3
x3 = -4 - x4
x4 = -4 - x1

And now I'm stumped. I didn't think these would do anything, but setting the first and second rows equal to each other, and the third and fourth rows equal to each other simply gets x1 - x3 = 0 for both of them.

I didn't think this would do anything either, but I tried also back substituting the x1 equation into the x4 equation, and then the x2 equation into x4, and so on, and that ended up with x4 = x4.
 
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edit: never my idea didn't work
 
Chas3down said:
edit: never my idea didn't work

Thanks for the try though.
 
Ryry013 said:
Here is a picture of the problem.
95a5184073482d018c453a322f0bf325.png
Can anyone give me some hints on the problem? I've looked in my textbook, but I don't know what "s" means. I found stuff on the parametric vector form, and it gives me the equation x = su + tv, but I don't see any "t"'s in this problem.

I first tried setting up an augmented matrix with

[ 1 1 0 0 | -3 ]
[ 0 1 1 0 | -3 ]
[ 0 0 1 1 | -4 ]
[ 1 0 0 1 | -4 ]

And I solved for the four variables, like:
x1 = -3 - x2
x2 = -3 - x3
x3 = -4 - x4
x4 = -4 - x1
It looks like you didn't actually do anything with your augmented matrix. Use row reduction to get the matrix in reduced row echelon form. When it's completely reduced you can solve for x1, x2, and x3 in terms of x4. Your solution will look like a vector + a parameter (that's s) times another vector.
Ryry013 said:
And now I'm stumped. I didn't think these would do anything, but setting the first and second rows equal to each other, and the third and fourth rows equal to each other simply gets x1 - x3 = 0 for both of them.

I didn't think this would do anything either, but I tried also back substituting the x1 equation into the x4 equation, and then the x2 equation into x4, and so on, and that ended up with x4 = x4.
 
I agree with Mark44. When I row reduce the augmented matrix, I get all "0"s in the last row, non-zero values in the third column and fourth columns.
Something like this:
\begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 & a_1 & b_1 \\ 0 & 1 & 0 & a_2 & b_2 \\ 0 & 0 & 1 & a_3 & b_3 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\end{bmatrix}
(with, of course, specific numbers for the "a"s and "b"s but I wanted to leave that fun to you!)

That is equivalent to the equation x_1+ a_1x_4= b_1, x_2+ a_2x_4= b_4, and x_3+ a_3x_4= b_4 which can be solved as "a_i equals a number plus a multiple of x_4".
 
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