Linear Dependence of x1, x2 and x3 in R^2

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The discussion revolves around the linear dependence of vectors in R^2 and R^3, specifically examining the relationships between sets of vectors and their spans. Participants are exploring concepts of linear combinations and the dimensions of vector spans.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to establish why the vectors x1, x2, and x3 are linearly dependent, referencing their ability to span R^2. There is also a discussion about the dimension of spans and the nature of basis vectors in R^2 and R^3.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest that demonstrating x3 as a linear combination of x1 and x2 would clarify the dependence. Others question the definitions and assumptions regarding dimensions and bases, indicating a lack of consensus on the interpretation of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential misunderstandings regarding the definition of a basis in R^2 and the implications of vector coordinates in R^3. There is also mention of a discrepancy between the book's assertion about the dimension of the span and participants' interpretations.

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x1= column vector (2, 1)
x2= column vector (4, 3)
x3= column vector (7, -3)

Why must x1, x2, and x3 be linearly dependent?

x1 and x2 span R^2.
The basis are these two columns vectors: (3/2, -1/2), (-2, 1)

Since x1 and x2 form the basis, x3 can be written as a linear combination of these vectors.

Is that it? or correct?
 
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Dustinsfl said:
x1= column vector (2, 1)
x2= column vector (4, 3)
x3= column vector (7, -3)

Why must x1, x2, and x3 be linearly dependent?

How to answer that question depends on what you have learned. What is the dimension of R2?
x1 and x2 span R^2.
The basis are these two columns vectors: (3/2, -1/2), (-2, 1)

There is no such thing as the basis for R2. Any two linearly independent vectors in R2 are a basis.
Since x1 and x2 form the basis, x3 can be written as a linear combination of these vectors.

Is that it? or correct?

You could just demonstrate x3 = cx1 + dx2; that would surely settle it.
 
New question:
x1=(3, -2, 4)
x2=(3, -1, 4)
x3=(-6, 4, -8)

What is the dimension of span (x1, x2, and x3)

The book says 1; however, shouldn't the dimension be 3? I see that these 3 vectors are all the same times a constant but there are coordinates.
 
Dustinsfl said:
New question:
x1=(3, -2, 4)
x2=(3, -1, 4)
x3=(-6, 4, -8)

What is the dimension of span (x1, x2, and x3)

The book says 1; however, shouldn't the dimension be 3? I see that these 3 vectors are all the same times a constant but there are coordinates.

If they are supposed to be a constant times each other you have mistyped something. But assuming that, what is the definition of dimension that you are using? You have to apply that.
 

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