Linear fictitious force problem

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The discussion revolves around a linear fictitious force problem related to torque and moment of inertia. The user initially applies a torque equation but does not change the frame of reference, leading to an incorrect frequency calculation. The correct moment of inertia for a rod about a pivot point is confirmed to be 1/3 mL^2, while it is 1/12 mL^2 when rotating about its center. The error in the user's approach stems from not properly accounting for the pivot point in the moment of inertia calculation. Understanding these concepts is crucial for solving similar physics problems accurately.
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I understand the solution of the problem, but I want to know why don't my approach work.

I didn't change the frame of reference.
I use the regular method of solving a torque problem.
(mgsinθ - mAcosθ)(L/2) = mL2/3 θ''
which is approximately equal to
gθ-A = 2/3 L θ''
by solving differential equations, I got a frequency of Root (3/2 * g/L) , why am I wrong? Thank you (Also, isn't the moment of inertia of a rod 1/3 * mL^2 with respect to the rod?)
 

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Yes, the moment of inertia of the rod about the pivot point is ## I_a=\int\limits_{0}^{L} \rho \, r^2 \, dr =(\frac{1}{3})ML^2 ##. ## \\ ## That will get you the correct answer. ## \\ ## ( It's only ## (\frac{1}{12})ML^2 ## if you rotate it about its center).
 
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