Linear forms and complete metric space

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving linear functionals on a real Banach space, specifically examining the convergence of a sequence of vectors given the convergence of their images under a linear functional. The original poster seeks to understand whether the convergence of the functional implies the convergence of the sequence in the Banach space.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the linear functional being invertible or not and question the assumptions regarding the nature of the functional. There are attempts to explore the relationship between the convergence of the sequence and the properties of the linear functional.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and suggestions regarding the use of specific mathematical concepts, such as the Riesz representation theorem, while others emphasize the need to approach the problem without relying on this theorem. The conversation reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the conditions under which the sequence converges.

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There is a specific constraint mentioned that the problem should be solved without using the Riesz representation theorem, as the goal is to demonstrate the theorem's validity in the context of the problem. Additionally, the original poster indicates that they are working on a related problem that requires showing convergence under certain conditions.

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[SOLVED] Linear forms and complete metric space

Homework Statement


Question:

Let L be a linear functional/form on a real Banach space X and let {x_k} be a sequence of vectors such that L(x_k) converges. Can I conclude that {x_k} has a limit in X?

It would help me greatly in solving a certain problem if I knew the answer to that question.

The Attempt at a Solution



The natural approach is to try to show that {x_k} is Cauchy.

Since the sequence of real numbers {L(x_k)} converges, then it is Cauchy, so for n,k large enough,

|L(x_k)-L(x_n)|=|L(x_k - x_n)|<\epsilon

Now what??
 
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If L is not invertible what can happen?
 
edit: removing my too explicit hint. :-p
 
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Boo. I'm sure he could have figured it out on his own.

What is the particular quandary?

Edit: Suppose L is invertible! What can you say then?
 
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Too late morphism! :D
 
Anyway, guys, in the problem I'm working on, I must show that in a particular situation, the x_k do have a limit in X.

Are you willing to help with the general problem?

If so, I will type it out. Not very long, but a little complicated notation-wise.
 
It's at the core, a problem on measure theory.

Let \mathcal{L}^2(\mathbb{R}) denote the space of square-integrable functions f on R (with respect to the Lebesgue sigma-algebra and Lebesgue measure \lambda) and let \mathcal{L}^2_{\lambda}(\mathbb{R}) denote the space of their equivalence classes f where f=g if f=g almost everywhere. [f]+[g]=[f+g] and c[f]=[cf] are well defined.

Now with the norm

||\mathbf{f}||_2=\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}|f(x)|^2dx

(\mathcal{L}^2_{\lambda}(\mathbb{R}),||||_2) is a real Banach space.

A continuous linear form on (\mathcal{L}^2_{\lambda}(\mathbb{R}),||||_2) is a linear form L:\mathcal{L}^2_{\lambda}(\mathbb{R})\rightarrow \mathbb{R} such that

||L||=\sup\left\{\frac{|L(\mathbf{f})|}{||\mathbf{f}||_2}: \mathbf{f}\neq \mathbf{0}\right\}=\sup\left\{|L(\mathbf{f})|:||\mathbf{f}||_2=1\right\}<+\infty

Now consider a sequence \mathbf{g}_k\in \mathcal{L}^2_{\lambda}(\mathbb{R}) be such that

||\mathbf{g}_k||_2=1 and \lim_{k\rightarrow\infty}L(\mathbf{g}_k)=||L||

Show that \mathbf{g}_k has a limit in \mathcal{L}^2_{\lambda}(\mathbb{R}).
 
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Is L a fixed functional? If so, I don't think this is true. Try constructing a counterexample using the zero functional.
 
Apologies!

There is an additional hypothese! L is a non-identically vanishing functional!
 
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I'm tempted to use the Riesz representation theorem: we know there is a nonzero f in L^2 such that L(g)=<f,g> for all g in L^2, and ||L||=||f||_2.

Now consider ||f - g_n||_2^2. (Hint: apply the polarization identity, and use the fact that <f,g_n> -> ||f||.) Try to see if you can guess what (g_n) converges to using this.
 
  • #11
We are not to use this theorem in this problem, because in a sense, the whole problem sheet comes down to showing explicitely that the Riesz representation theorem hold in the case of L². No prior knowledge of functional analysis should be needed to do this problem.

Someone told me he succeeded in answering this question by effectively proving that the sequence g_k was Cauchy!
 
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Did you manage to do it without Riesz?
 
  • #13
Yes, with the help of aforementioned person. :)

With the parallelogram identity, we reduce the problem to showing ||\mathbf{g}_k+\mathbf{g}_{k+p}||_2^2 \rightarrow 4

Then notice that because ||L|| is the sup,

\frac{L(\mathbf{g}_k+\mathbf{g}_{k+p})}{||\mathbf{g}_k+\mathbf{g}_{k+p}||_2}\leq ||L|| \ \ \ \ \ \ (*)

On the other hand, write out the facts that L(g_k)-->||L|| and L(g_{k+p})-->||L|| and add the inequalities to obtain

L(\mathbf{g}_k+\mathbf{g}_{k+p})&gt;2(||L||-\epsilon&#039;)

Combine with equation (*) to obtain an inequality involving ||\mathbf{g}_k+\mathbf{g}_{k+p}||_2 and \epsilon&#039;. Show that to any \epsilon&gt;0, you can find an \epsilon&#039;(\epsilon) such that 4-||\mathbf{g}_k+\mathbf{g}_{k+p}||_2^2&lt;\epsilon^2 for k large enough.
 
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