Linear Indepdant or not? the Wronskin = 0, so whats going on

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The discussion revolves around determining the linear independence of various pairs of functions, specifically focusing on the application of the Wronskian determinant. Participants are examining functions involving polynomials and absolute values.

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  • The original poster attempts to use the Wronskian to assess linear independence but questions the validity of their approach, particularly regarding the treatment of absolute values and derivatives. Some participants question the method of plugging in values to determine linear independence.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's confusion, providing clarifications about the properties of absolute values and derivatives. There is an exploration of the implications of the Wronskian being zero or non-zero, with some guidance offered on the relationship between the functions.

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There is a mention of specific functions and their derivatives, with some participants noting the distinction between |x| and x in the context of derivatives. The original poster's method of evaluating the Wronskian by substituting values is questioned, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the concept.

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Hello everyone, can you tell me what I'm doing wrong here? The question says:
Determine which of the following pairs of functions are linearly independent.

1. f(x) = x^2\quad, g(x) = 4|x|^2

2. f(x) = x^3\quad , g(x)=|x|^3

3. http://cwcsrv11.cwc.psu.edu/webwork2_files/tmp/equations/24/4509f1c45a8fe2f376f4b191d2975d1.png

4. f(t) = 2t^2+14t, g(t)=2t^2-14t

Here is my work:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9587/lastscan4zm.jpg Once i put it in the form of y1y2'-y1'y2, i would plug in 0 for t, and if th4e answer was != 0, I thought it was L.I.
 
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Which question specifically are you confused on? I see you have a problem with #2 since |x| is not the same as x. Also what is this with plugging in 0 for t? You don't do that.
 
so taking the derivative of |x|^3 isn't t he same as x^3?
Once you put the equations into y1y2'-y1'y2 What do you to to determine if they are linearly indepdant or not?
 
if y1y2' - y1'y2 is 0, then the functions are L.D. Otherwise the functions are L.I.

The two functions are L.I. if one is a multiple of the other, that is if y1/y2 = k where k is a constant (or if y2/y1). Differentiating both sides and multiplying through by y2^2 gives you y1y2' - y1'y2 = 0 since the derivative of a constant is 0.

In summary if y1y2' - y1'y2 = 0, then either y1/y2 or y2/y1 is a constant and the functions are l.d., and if y1y2' - y1'y2 != 0, then y1/y2 is not a constant and the functions are l.i.

Yes, the derivative of |x|^3 is not the same as the derivative of x^3. If x > 0 then |x|^3 = x^3, but if x < 0 then |x|^3 = -(x^3).
 
thank u for the explanation!
 

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