Linear Momentum: Homework for Block on Triangular Block

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The problem involves a block of mass m placed on a triangular block of mass M, which is on a horizontal surface. The scenario assumes frictionless surfaces and requires calculating the velocity of the triangular block when the smaller block reaches the bottom of the incline, with the angle of inclination denoted as theta.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of linear momentum and energy to derive the velocity of the triangular block but expresses confusion regarding the complexity of the relationship with theta.
  • Some participants question the assumptions made about the system, particularly regarding external forces and the treatment of velocities in different directions.
  • Others suggest that there may be a misunderstanding in the notation used for velocities in the equations presented.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into potential misunderstandings in the original poster's approach. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of forces and velocities.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the system is not isolated due to the gravitational force acting on the small block, which may affect the conservation principles applied. There is also mention of the need to clarify the definitions of variables used in the equations.

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Homework Statement



A block of mass m is placed on a triangular block of mass M, which in turn is placed on a horizontal surface. Assuming frictionless surfaces, calculate the velocity of the triangular block when the smaller block reaches the bottom end. The angle of inclination of triangular block is theta.

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The Attempt at a Solution



When the small block reaches bottom of the surface, linear momentum in x-direction is conserved.

Mv=m(u-v) where v is the absolute velocity of triangular block
i.e. v=mu/(M+m) and u is the relative velocity of small block

by applying conservation of energy,
u=(2gh)^2

but the answer is not v=[m(2gh)^2]/(M+m)

It is very complex in terms of theta.
Where am I wrong?
 
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You have failed to consider that the system is not an isolated one; there is a net gravitational force acting on the small block.
 
I considered the Linear momentum only in x-direction. There is no net external force acting in x-direction.
 
A key thing is that your answer does not appear to involve theta - this implies that you have mixed up your 'u's. Your first 'u' would be the relative velocity of the small block in the x-direction, but in your COE equation, you used 'u' again to denote the velocity of the small block - this time not just in the x-direction.
 
Fightfish said:
A key thing is that your answer does not appear to involve theta - this implies that you have mixed up your 'u's. Your first 'u' would be the relative velocity of the small block in the x-direction, but in your COE equation, you used 'u' again to denote the velocity of the small block - this time not just in the x-direction.

Then please give me some hints on solving this.
 

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