List of common misconceptions about relativity?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around common misconceptions about relativity, particularly in the context of teaching introductory physics. Participants share various questions and topics that could help students clarify their understanding of special and general relativity, exploring both theoretical and conceptual aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose questions such as how light can have momentum despite having zero mass and whether a baseball accelerated to ultrarelativistic speeds would become a black hole.
  • Others suggest exploring the implications of relativistic effects, such as the nature of time dilation and length contraction, and whether these effects are "real."
  • One participant raises the idea that many students struggle with the concept of absolute rest and absolute speeds, which complicates their understanding of relativity.
  • Another participant mentions the misconception that relativity only applies to high-speed motion, noting that time dilation can occur at lower speeds as well.
  • Several participants highlight specific paradoxes and scenarios, such as the Ehrenfest paradox and Bell's paradox, as potential discussion points for students.
  • There are suggestions regarding the nature of black holes and the perception of time for observers near them, as well as the implications of the Big Bang on the observable universe.
  • One participant questions the common belief that only extremely dense objects can become black holes and discusses the misconception regarding the radius of the visible universe.
  • Another participant mentions the Penrose-Terrell rotation as a way to illustrate length contraction and how science fiction often misrepresents relativity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of misconceptions and questions, indicating that there is no consensus on which misconceptions are most prevalent or how to best address them. Multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation of relativistic effects and the nature of black holes.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the level of understanding among students may vary, and that certain topics may be too advanced for the current coursework. There is also mention of the importance of terminology in discussions about relativity, which may affect students' comprehension.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for educators teaching introductory physics, particularly those focusing on relativity, as well as students seeking to clarify their understanding of common misconceptions in the subject.

  • #31
rjbeery said:
For a myth, how about "SR has proven the aether does not exist." I'm not advocating for aether, but there's a big difference between proving that something cannot exist in a theory versus merely acknowledging that it isn't necessary in that theory.
As I see this is rather complicated question. Obviously it's a myth. But at the time people where probably hung on the idea of finding preferred frame. So such a myth would ban useless discussions.
But nowadays I would say that such a myth promotes kind of magical thinking. That's because dimensional modelling is very powerful tool for consistency checking but that myth kind of prevents using it. But that's my viewpoint.
 
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  • #32
And another thing that I considered quite interesting (somewhat related to relativistic interpretation of aberration). This is actually a paradox kind of thing but it of course is related to some misconception (if you have it).

Let's say we have situation like this:
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Observers "1" and "2" are observing box with an "A" printed on it's side. We view this situation in rest frame of the box and first observer. Second observer is in motion in that frame. Neither observer can see the "A" on the side of the box when both observers are side by side.

Now let's change to rest frame of second observer:
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The box and first observer is in motion in that frame. Because the box is in motion and light doesn't get to observer instantly second observer see the box in it's past position. So should the "A" be visible for him?
 

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