How can \sqrt x and \log_e x be compared using calculus?

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The discussion focuses on comparing the functions \(\sqrt{x}\) and \(\log_e{x}\) using calculus, specifically through differentiation. The function \(f(x) = \sqrt{x} - \log_e{x}\) is analyzed to demonstrate that it is always greater than zero for \(x > 0\). Key points include the limits as \(x\) approaches zero, where \(\ln{x}\) approaches \(-\infty\), and the behavior of the derivatives, confirming that \(\sqrt{x}\) is strictly increasing and dominates \(\log_e{x}\) for \(x > 4\).

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I was going through some important points give in my textbook and I saw this:
##\log_e x < \sqrt x##
How did they get this?
I know calculus so you can show this using differentiation, etc.
One possible way is that they took
##f(x)=\sqrt x-\log_e x##
And tried to prove it is always greater than zero.
 
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You can write \sqrt x as e^{\ln \sqrt x}=e^{\frac 1 2 \ln x}. Now we have $$\lim_{x\to 0} \ln x=-\infty $$ and $$ \lim_{y\to -\infty} e^y=0 $$. So for the least value of \sqrt x, \ln x &lt; \sqrt x and because \sqrt x is strictly increasing and \frac 1 x &lt; \frac{1}{2\sqrt x} for x&gt;4, the inequality is always satisfied.

EDIT: Looks like rewriting \sqrt{x} wasn't necessary, but I don't change it because it may give you a feeling for the inequality.
 
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Shyan said:
You can write \sqrt x as e^{\ln \sqrt x}=e^{\frac 1 2 \ln x}. Now we have $$\lim_{x\to 0} \ln x=-\infty $$ and $$ \lim_{y\to -\infty} e^y=0 $$. So for the least value of \sqrt x, \ln x &lt; \sqrt x and because \sqrt x is strictly increasing and \frac 1 x &lt; \frac{1}{2\sqrt x} for x&gt;4, the inequality is always satisfied.

EDIT: Looks like rewriting \sqrt{x} wasn't necessary, but I don't change it because it may give you a feeling for the inequality.
For x<4 why can't there be a point of intersection? You haven't specified what happens for x<4
I understood everything else. Thanks for the reply.
 
AdityaDev said:
For x<4 why can't there be a point of intersection? You haven't specified what happens for x<4
I understood everything else. Thanks for the reply.
When x \to 0, we have \sqrt x=0 and \ln x \to -\infty. In the interval (0,4], \ln x increases faster than \sqrt x, but that slight excess can't make up for the huge gap in such a small interval.
 
Check the derivatives - if one derivative is smaller than another and the initial values are different then you have shown that one is always smaller than the other provided this requirement is met.
 

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