Logistic Equation Calculus Question

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The discussion revolves around a logistic equation describing population growth, specifically the equation dp/dt = 0.03 p - 0.006 p^2. Participants are exploring how to identify the carrying capacity and the value of the Malthusian parameter (k) from the given differential equation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to manipulate the given differential equation to match the standard logistic form. There are questions about the correctness of factoring and rearranging terms to identify parameters.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to correctly rearrange the equation, pointing out errors in the original poster's approach. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct form of the logistic equation and how to derive the necessary parameters.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the manipulation of terms in the equation, particularly with factoring out p^2, which led to misinterpretation of the logistic form. Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as presented without additional context or information.

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Homework Statement



Suppose that a population develops according to the logistic equation
dp/dt = 0.03 p - 0.006 p^2
where t is measured in weeks.
-What is the carrying capacity and the value of k?


Homework Equations



dp/dt = kP ( 1 - (p/K)) where K is the carrying capacity

The Attempt at a Solution



Well i thought that in order to solve this i need to get the differenctial expression give in the question to resemble that of the logistic equation so i can get the values. so far my attempts have failed...so i don't know if THAT is wat i am actually supposed to do.
I rearranged the equation and i got:
dp/dt = P^2 ( (o.o3/P) - 0.oo6)
= 0.006 P^2 ( (5/P) - 1)
= -0.006 P^2 ( 1- (5/P))
that is the farthest I went so far i don't really know wat to do next or whether or not I am understanding this question correctly. Any help would be greatly appreciated :smile:
 
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You have the general form, but then you factored out a p^2. Now you are inventing another form...

To paraphrase "Only Euclid has seen beauty bare" ... but not here.
 
So, you want to get your equation in the form \frac{dp}{dt}=\frac{rp(K-p)}{K}=rp(1-\frac{p}{K}), where here r is the Malthusian parameter (your k) and K is the carrying capacity.

Your mistake was factoring out p2, since this gives us a term which looks like 1/p instead of p inside the brackets. You should do this: \frac{dp}{dt}=0.006p(5-p)=0.03p(1-\frac{p}{5}). Can you solve now?
 
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cristo said:
So, you want to get your equation in the form \frac{dp}{dt}=\frac{rp(K-p)}{K}=rp(1-\frac{p}{K}), where here r is the Malthusian parameter (your k) and K is the carrying capacity.

Your mistake was factoring out p2, since this gives us a term which looks like 1/p instead of p inside the brackets. You should do this: \frac{dp}{dt}=0.006p(5-p)=0.03p(1-\frac{p}{5}). Can you solve now?

thanks for the help i got the right answer :biggrin:
 

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