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The discussion revolves around recommendations for intermediate-level books on special relativity suitable for a high school student who has a solid foundation in calculus. Participants share various titles and express preferences based on mathematical rigor and content depth.

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  • One participant suggests Shankar's Fundamentals of Physics I as a suitable book that covers a range of topics at an appropriate level.
  • Another participant discusses Geroch's General Relativity A to B, noting its theoretical depth despite its seemingly simple presentation, and mentions Geroch's graduate-level lecture notes as a more advanced option.
  • Tom Moore's Six Ideas That Shaped Physics: Unit R is proposed as a more mathematically appropriate choice.
  • Ed Taylor and J.A. Wheeler's Spacetime Physics is recommended, with a preference expressed for the 1966 edition due to its inclusion of worked problems.
  • A participant who purchased both the 1966 and the latest editions of Spacetime Physics notes that the latter contains significantly more content.
  • Concerns are raised about the absence of worked solutions in the second edition of Spacetime Physics, which some participants find valuable.
  • References to the concept of rapidity in the first edition of Spacetime Physics are mentioned, with a participant indicating that it was removed in the second edition based on feedback from some readers.

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Participants express differing preferences for editions of Spacetime Physics and the inclusion of certain topics, indicating a lack of consensus on the best choice for an intermediate book.

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Some participants highlight specific features of the books, such as worked solutions and the treatment of rapidity, which may influence their recommendations. The discussion reflects varying opinions on the importance of these features.

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My 10th grader is looking for a relativity book that is bit more advanced than the ones he has been reading, which are An Illustrated Guide to Relativity by Takeuichi, and General Relativity A to B by Gerach.

He has completed AP Calculus BC, so he has a good handle on single variable calculus and is ready for a book that has a more rigorous mathematical treatment of the topics.

Any recommendations? Thanks in advance!
 
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Shankar's Fundamentals of Physics I has a good treatment at that level, and covers more besides.
 
That's General Relativity A to B by Geroch. (Although it looks simple, it's remarkably deep theoretically...addressing issues found nowhere else [intro or advanced]. I realized this when I sat for his graduate course in GR and recalled what I read in A-to-B.
Geroch's graduate-level lecture notes have been published
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0987987178/?tag=pfamazon01-20
but that's too much of a step from just A-to-B.)

For something more appropriate (math wise),
Tom Moore's Six Ideas That Shaped Physics: Unit R
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0072397144/?tag=pfamazon01-20
however, there is a 3rd edition out now (http://www.physics.pomona.edu/sixideas/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0077600959/?tag=pfamazon01-20 )

Ed Taylor and J.A. Wheeler's Spacetime Physics
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0716723271/?tag=pfamazon01-20
however, I much prefer the 1966 maroon edition with the worked problems ( see http://www.eftaylor.com/special.html )
 
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I recently bought both the 1966 edition of Spacetime Physics and the latest version and there is about 50% more content in the latest one.
Just out of curiosity, what is it that makes you strongly prefer the older one?
 
While the 2nd edition has some good answers to "student questions", the 1st-edition-with-worked-solutions is valuable. There are 1st editions that do not have the worked-solutions section. The 2nd edition doesn't have the worked-solutions.

In addition, the 1st edition had references to rapidity. Ed told me that they dropped it in the 2nd edition because some folks reported that they didn't use it. A group of us strongly suggested he include it in a future edition.
 
Thank you very much for the recommendations! Sorry for the late reply as I was traveling and didn't have ready access to this forum.
 

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