Lorentz force on current-carrying wire

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The discussion focuses on calculating the Lorentz force on a quarter-circle wire of radius 0.75m carrying a current of 3.5A in a uniform magnetic field of 1.7T. Two primary methods are discussed: using the path-independent force formula F = I L x B and a symmetry argument to determine the force direction. Additionally, the participant explores a third method involving parameterization of the curve and line integrals, suggesting that this approach could be beneficial for more complex scenarios involving nonuniform magnetic fields.

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  • Understanding of Lorentz force law and its applications
  • Familiarity with vector calculus and line integrals
  • Knowledge of magnetic fields and their interaction with current-carrying conductors
  • Ability to parameterize curves in Cartesian coordinates
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  • Study the application of the Lorentz force law in various geometries
  • Learn about parameterization of curves and its use in line integrals
  • Explore the implications of nonuniform magnetic fields on current-carrying wires
  • Investigate advanced vector calculus techniques relevant to electromagnetism
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Homework Statement


Given: a quarter-circle of wire (radius r=0.75m) in a uniform 1.7T magnetic field carrying a current of 3.5A (see diagram)
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Find: The force on the wire.

Note: the connecting wires delivering the current to the quarter circle are parallel to the magnetic field and experience no force.


Homework Equations


dF = I dS x B


The Attempt at a Solution


I know of two ways to solve this.

The first is to use the fact that the force is path-independent and use the F = I L x B formulation; we're not supposed to do that, as this is supposed to be a calculus problem.

The second is the way my instructor suggested to the class, which is to argue by symmetry that the force is directed at a 45 degree angle outward from the origin. I can then treat it like a scalar integration problem and use the fact that the magnitude of dS is r d(theta). It's really a quite simple problem this way, but it only works because the problem is particularly simple.

Having done vector calculus, I feel like there ought to be a third way to attack the thing; it should be possible to parameterize the curve and do something like a line integral. The advantage would be that the same approach would work for a messier problem, where e.g. the magnetic field was nonuniform so the direction wasn't plainly obvious. But I'm not quite sure where to begin. I've got the following parameterization:
x(t) = r sin t
y(t) = r cos t
z(t)=0
0 <= t <= pi/2
but I'm not sure where to go from there. Any ideas?
 
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I haven't thought this through completely, but it seems the arc-length formula would be useful:

dS = (dx2 + dy2)1/2 = (1 + (dy/dx)2)1/2 dx


And then express dy and dx in terms of t and dt.
 

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