Lowering Operator Simple Harmonic Oscillator n=3

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of the lowering operator to the wavefunction of a simple harmonic oscillator at the quantum state n=3, specifically aiming to verify a prediction related to Equation (5.6.22).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the lowering operator to the wavefunction and expresses confusion after deriving an unexpected result. They question the correctness of their setup and the operator used.
  • Some participants question the dimensional consistency of the expressions involved and suggest a potential correction regarding the form of the lowering operator.
  • Others express uncertainty about the source of the equations and consider the possibility of misinterpretation of the parameters involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the lowering operator and its application. Some guidance has been offered regarding dimensional analysis and potential corrections to the operator's form, but no consensus has been reached on the original poster's approach.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of missing information regarding the equations expected for the problem, leading to uncertainty about the original poster's understanding and setup.

njdevils45

Homework Statement


Show that application of the lowering Operator A- to the n=3 harmonic oscillator wavefunction leads to the result predicted by Equation (5.6.22).

Homework Equations


Equation (5.6.22): A-Ψn = -iΨn-1√n
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The Attempt at a Solution


I began by saying what the answer should end up becoming. I said that in the end I should get -iΨ2√3 and that Ψ2 was equal to the equation I have above. Then I took the equation for Ψ3 and applied the lowering operator to it in an attempt to get what the prediction is. However, once I applied the lowering operator, I end up getting stuck after taking the derivatives and I get something that looks absolutely nothing like the prediction. I'm confident I took the derivatives correct though since they were never really complicated to begin with. I'm just wondering if maybe my setup is incorrect?
 
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Your expression for the lowering operator ##A^-## is not quite right. If you check the dimensions of ##\frac{d}{dx}## and ##\alpha^2 x## you will find that these two expressions don't have the same dimensions if ##\alpha## is defined as ##\frac{m \omega}{\hbar}##. There is a simple fix for this. If that's not the source of your difficulty, then it would help to see the details of your work.
 
I'll be honest I found these equations from online. None of them were given to me in the problem, it just expects me to either know the equations or look them up. I guess it's possible I'm using the wrong lowering operator. Is it possible that the α in the denominator should be in a square root and the α next to the "x" should not be raised to the 2nd power?
 
njdevils45 said:
I guess it's possible I'm using the wrong lowering operator. Is it possible that the α in the denominator should be in a square root and the α next to the "x" should not be raised to the 2nd power?
Yes, that's right.
 
Ok great! In that case I'll try again thursday when I have time. Thank you!
 

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