Luanch angle to put a satellite in an orbit?

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The discussion revolves around determining the optimal launch angle for placing a satellite into a 1000 km orbit, considering various factors such as speed, atmospheric drag, and the mechanics of orbital insertion. The scope includes theoretical considerations and practical implications of satellite launches.

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  • One participant questions the completeness of the problem, seeking formulas that relate the satellite's mass, initial velocity, and desired orbit.
  • Another participant suggests that the launch path should be nearly horizontal to increase speed, but emphasizes the need for a vertical component initially to overcome atmospheric drag.
  • A later reply argues that the ideal launch angle is neither vertical nor horizontal, proposing approximately 78º for optimal trajectory, while noting practical limitations of heavy launch vehicles.
  • It is mentioned that vehicles typically do not launch directly into high orbits but first achieve a low Earth orbit before transferring to the desired orbit in multiple steps.

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Participants express differing views on the ideal launch angle and the completeness of the initial question. There is no consensus on a specific launch angle or a complete set of formulas, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of orbital mechanics, including the influence of atmospheric conditions and the design of launch trajectories, which may depend on specific vehicle characteristics and mission profiles.

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I have a Question:

suppose we have a satellite (m=400kg, V0=40m/s) and we want to put it in a 1000km orbit (r=1000km)...what should be the launch angle?


P.S: is this question complete?(For Lack Of A Better Word) .. I mean do we have a formula which relates these parameters.. or perhaps a couple of formulas that relates them...


thx for you help...
 
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The main goal is to increase speed, so the best path would be nearly horizontal, except that atmospheric drag is much less at higher altitudes, so there needs to be a significant veritcal component during the early part of the path until the atmosphere gets thinner, reducing drag force (along with heat) on the rocket as it's speed increases. Once past the atmosphere, then something similar to a Hohmann transfer orbital path is used, depending on the weight of the target object:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohmann_transfer_orbit
 
smhni said:
P.S: is this question complete?(For Lack Of A Better Word) .. I mean do we have a formula which relates these parameters.. or perhaps a couple of formulas that relates them...

The question is not complete, and not by a long shot. The ideal launch angle is neither vertical nor horizontal. A horizontal launch won't gain the altitude needed to clear the atmosphere. A vertical launch isn't aligned to gain the requisite horizontal velocity. For the Space Shuttle, the ideal launch angle would be about 78º rather the the 90º vertical alignment.

The Shuttle is not launched at a 78º pitch angle for the simple reason that the vehicle is too danged heavy to be launched at any angle but vertical. It would fall over before it could ever be launched were it oriented at 78º. Vertically-launched vehicles such as the Shuttle have to pitch down to the desired angle soon after launch. Once in this desired attitude, the vehicle maintains a zero angle of attack and follows a gravity turn (google this phrase). The gravity turn let's gravity and aerodynamics turn the vehicle so that by the time the vehicle leaves the atmosphere it is oriented nearly horizontally and has attained orbital velocity.

Vehicles are not launch directly into a 1000 km orbit. The launch vehicle takes the spacecraft to a very low Earth orbit. From that point, upper stages transfer the spacecraft from this insertion orbit to the desired orbit. This is typically done in multiple steps so as to insure that not only is the vehicle in the desired orbit but is also in the right place on that orbit.
 
thanks guys... your answers were very helpful..
 

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