Maclaurin series of tan (e^x -1)

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The discussion revolves around finding the Maclaurin series for the function tan(e^x - 1), specifically focusing on determining the correct coefficient for the x^4 term. Participants are examining their calculations and the application of differentiation rules.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are analyzing their derivatives and coefficients, questioning where mistakes may have occurred in their calculations. There is a focus on the application of the product rule in differentiation.

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Some participants have identified potential errors in their differentiation processes, particularly regarding the number of terms derived from the product rule. There is ongoing exploration of these issues, with some guidance provided on the need for additional terms in their derivatives.

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Participants express uncertainty about their calculations and seek clarification on specific steps in the differentiation process. There is an emphasis on ensuring all necessary components of the product rule are included in their work.

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Homework Statement




for this, my coefficient of x^4 which is 8/4! = 1/3 .. but the ans should be 13/24... can you tell me which part contain mistake?
https://i.imgur.com/05NnrdM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/28Q9o51.jpg


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delsoo said:

Homework Statement




for this, my coefficient of x^4 which is 8/4! = 1/3 .. but the ans should be 13/24... can you tell me which part contain mistake?
https://i.imgur.com/05NnrdM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/28Q9o51.jpg


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The Attempt at a Solution


In your expression for the third derivative you didn't differentiate the dy/dx factor. You've only got part of the product rule there.
 
i redo the question, now my coeffiecient of x becomes only 11 but not 13, now which part is wrong?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/123101228@N03/13809331763/
 
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delsoo said:
i redo the question, now my coeffiecient of x becomes only 11 but not 13, now which part is wrong?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/123101228@N03/13809331763/

Exactly the same sort of problem. You left out half of a product rule again. Can't YOU find it? You should have four [...] expressions, not three.
 
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sorry i really can't find it, i have 2 [ ... ] for d3y/dx3 , and i have 4 [...] for d4y/dx4 , can you be more specifiec telling me which part is wrong? thanks!
 
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delsoo said:
sorry i really can't find it, i have 2 [ ... ] for d3y/dx3 , and i have 4 [...] for d4y/dx4 , can you be more specifiec telling me which part is wrong? thanks!

That's the problem. Yes, you should have four [...]'s for d4y/dx4. In the image you sent, you don't have four. You have three. You are missing one.
 
Dick said:
That's the problem. Yes, you should have four [...]'s for d4y/dx4. In the image you sent, you don't have four. You have three. You are missing one.

thanks a lot! i found out i my grave mistake finally!
 
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