Macro/close up photography equipment

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around equipment and techniques for macro photography, particularly focused on capturing detailed images of small subjects like insects and arachnids. Participants share their experiences with various cameras, lenses, and accessories, exploring options for both amateur and more advanced photography.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to improve their macro photography capabilities beyond what their current point-and-shoot camera offers, seeking recommendations for affordable DSLR setups.
  • Another participant shares their experience with a Canon PowerShot, suggesting that even non-DSLRs can produce satisfactory close-up images.
  • Some participants discuss the limitations of point-and-shoot cameras compared to DSLRs, particularly in terms of f-stop capabilities and light gathering, which affect depth-of-field.
  • A suggestion is made to explore macro bellows, which allow for greater magnification by moving the lens further from the sensor, but this requires a removable lens typically found on DSLRs.
  • One participant mentions the possibility of using close-up filters on their Panasonic camera as a cost-effective alternative to purchasing a new camera, although they acknowledge the potential drop in image quality.
  • Concerns are raised about the quality of cheap close-up lenses and filters, with a recommendation to stick to reputable brands to avoid issues such as fluorescence from low-quality filters.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to macro photography equipment. Multiple competing views are presented regarding the effectiveness of different camera types and accessories.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the quality and effectiveness of various macro photography solutions, including the impact of pixel count versus other camera specifications. There are also discussions about the limitations of point-and-shoot cameras in achieving desired macro results.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in macro photography, particularly those looking to capture detailed images of small subjects, may find this discussion relevant. Amateur photographers considering upgrades to their equipment or exploring alternative methods for close-up photography could benefit from the shared experiences and suggestions.

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Hello,
I would like to jump into close up/macro photography, primarily for insects and arachnids (more precisely I would love to take picture of Trombidiidae and other monsters barely visible to the naked eyes.)
I have a point and shoot camera (some panasonic with a huge optical zoom, 16x if I remember well), which takes nice very amateurish close up pictures, but I would like to go one step further.
I have a cell phone camera of 64 M pixels, but the macro mode isn't great due to the lack of external lens. There are cheap sets of lenses (about 30 euros on Amazon) that can go on top of a cell phone camera. However I don't think the macro photography pictures are good enough for my use-case, there would be little to no improvement compared to the panasonic point and shoot I already have.

From what I've gathered the best solution would be a DLSR camera with a special lens. Is there any cheap to intermediate (i.e. no more than 500 euros) setups? Which model(s) are popular for amateur photography?

P.S.: I have already taken a few thousand pictures with the panasonic, some very nice, for example a jumping spider with a green fly in its fangs. So I know what I am going into.
 
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These may not be good enough for what you want but check out the enlargements (click and then click again to get the largest ones). This is not even a DSLR, just a regular camera, but fairly expensive. Mine is an old Canon PowerShot SX40 HS, but there's now a 50, a 60, and a 70. As far as the closeups go, I think they're all the same (about 12X or a bit more) but the newer ones have better resolution.

http://www.phinds.com/misc/pics/index.htm
 
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Very cool pics, @phinds -- I especially like the click-to-zoom feature. :smile:
 
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A kindred sprit.
I've got a point-n-shoot too.
Canon G-15.
I really enjoy macro shooting because I really enjoy bugs & other tiny critters.
I haven't been able to justify the cost of a DSLR.
Let us know how your search goes.
 
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I see... That looks very similar to what I get with my panasonic, but I want to go one step further and get those giant well detailed pictures of small bugs, where for example we can even clearly see the reflections of the camera and the outdoor in jumping spider eyes, something I cannot achieve with my current point and shoot.
My brother might land me a Nikon coolpix p530, but from what I read it isn't a DSLR and I thus I don't think I can buy one of those special macro lens.
However a quick google search reveals that there are such lenses... I am a bit confused.
 
Note that straight pixel count is not the best measure of a camera's ability to take quality shots.

DSLRs have a number of advantages over PnS, much to do with how "Fast" they are (their f-stop), and how much light they can gather because of their size. More light means you can get better depth-of-field.

A lot of PnSs can only get down to about f3.5 or thereabouts. DSLRs can get down to f.1.2.
 
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macro close up bellows

The bellows let's you move the lens further away from the "film" or sensor; this is what gives the magnification. But it needs a removable lens, so these days probably a DSLR.
 
If you can put a filter in front of the Panasonic lens you can put 'close up' lenses there; and they are a lot cheaper than a camera. Not the image quality of a DSLR but for under USD100 for a set of four they might be worth a try. (You can even stack them but the image quality goes down into the weeds.)

I use the wife's Canon S3is (Point N Shoot, at least a decade old) for closeups. The SuperMacro will focus down to the the front surface of the lense, which is plenty for me. Have to keep the lens and any filter really clean so the autofocus doesn't think the dust is the subject!

Oh, a tip on filters, stick with the two (or three?) major brands. I was playing with a high power Blue Laser with some lens filters; the cheap ones would fluoresce Red. Not nice.

Cheers,
Tom
 
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