Magnetic Field Due To Wire Of Semi-Circular Cross Section

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic field due to a wire with a semi-circular cross section. Participants are examining the mathematical setup and assumptions involved in the problem, particularly focusing on the distribution of current within the wire.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the original poster's approach to calculating the current and magnetic field, specifically the use of terms like ##\pi R^2## and the interpretation of the wire's geometry. There is a suggestion to consider the wire as an infinitely long conductor and to analyze the contributions to the magnetic field from different components.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing alternative perspectives on the problem setup. Some have offered clarifications regarding the nature of the wire and its current distribution, while others are still seeking to understand the implications of the original poster's calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is some ambiguity regarding the terminology used to describe the wire, with references to both a "semicircular ring" and a "half cylinder." This has led to confusion about the assumptions regarding the current distribution and the geometry of the wire.

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Homework Statement
An infinite wire has semi-circular cross section with radius R. It carries current I. Then the magnitude of magnetic induction along its axis
Relevant Equations
Field due to infinite wire=##\frac{\mu_○I}{2\pi d}##
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I proceeded as follows
Current in sector ##d\theta=## is:
$$dI=\int_{x=0}^{x=R}{\frac{I}{\pi R^2/2}\times\frac{d\theta}{2\pi}\times 2\pi x dx}$$
Field due to sector ##d\theta## is therefore
$$dB=\int^{x=R}_{x=0}{\frac{\mu_○}{2\pi x}\times\frac{I}{\pi R^2/2}\times\frac{d\theta}{2\pi}\times 2\pi x dx}$$
$$\implies dB=\frac{\mu_○IR}{\pi^2R^2}d\theta$$
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For the entire wire:
$$B_{net}=\int^{\pi}_0{dB \cos(\theta-\pi/2) \hat i} + \int^{\pi}_0{dB \sin(\theta-\pi/2) \hat j}$$
Finally$$ B_{net}=\frac{2\mu_○I}{\pi^2R}$$

This is double the correct value? What did I do wrong ? Why does the book give this answer?
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I don't understand what you are doing here: $$dI=\int_{x=0}^{x=R}{\frac{I}{\pi R^2/2}\times\frac{d\theta}{2\pi}\times 2\pi x dx}.$$ The semicircular ring of radius ##R## is very thin and there should be no ##\pi R^2## term to consider. Assume that the current is uniformly distributed over the ring. An arc ##ds=R ~d\theta## has current $$dI=\frac{I}{\pi R}ds=\frac{1}{\pi}I~d\theta.$$ Consider that as an infinitely long wire, find the two components of its contribution ##dB_x## and ##dB_y## at the center and integrate over ##\theta##. The vertical component is expected to integrate to zero by symmetry. That's how one adds vectors.
 
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kuruman said:
I don't understand what you are doing here: $$dI=\int_{x=0}^{x=R}{\frac{I}{\pi R^2/2}\times\frac{d\theta}{2\pi}\times 2\pi x dx}.$$ The semicircular ring of radius ##R## is very thin and there should be no ##\pi R^2## term to consider.
The wire has semi-circular cross section. Therefore it has current distributed throughout its volume . It is a half cylinder with area ##\pi R^2/2## so current density is calculate by dividing current by area. So what is wrong with how I did it?
Why are you dividing current with circumference to find current density?
 
Aurelius120 said:
It is a half cylinder
The text says "semicircular ring", so just an arc of negligible width.
 
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haruspex said:
The text says "semicircular ring", so just an arc of negligible width.
So how does that look like?
 
@Aurelius120 (just in case you're still not clear) based on the Post #1 diagram the conductor is shaped like this
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(but infinitely long and made of material of negligible thickness).

The use of the terms 'wire'and 'ring' in the question, is not ideal IMO.
 
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