Why Is the Magnetic Field Inside the Cylinder Negative?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the magnetic field inside and outside an infinitely long cylinder with a "frozen-in" magnetization defined as M = ks^z, where k is a constant and s is the distance from the axis. The derived expression for the magnetic field inside the cylinder is B = -μ0ks^z, which contradicts the expected positive value. The participants explore the necessity of including surface current density in the calculations and the implications of symmetry in the current densities. The confusion arises from the relationship between the volume current density Jb and the surface current density Kb, particularly in the absence of symmetry.

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Homework Statement


An infinitely long cylinder, of radius R, carries a "frozen-in" magnetization. parallel to the axis, M = ks\hat{z} where k is a constant and s is the distance from the axis; there is no free current anywhere. Find the magnetic field inside and outside the cylinder

Homework Equations


J_{b} = \nabla \times M
K_{b} = M\times \hat{n}
\oint B \cdot dl = \mu_{0} I_{enc}

The Attempt at a Solution



Here J_{b} = -k\hat{\phi}
and K_{b} = kR \hat{\phi}

so the field inside s<R
B \cdot 2\pi s = \mu_{0} \int J_{b} da = \mu_{0} \int -k s&#039;ds&#039; d\phi&#039;
so i get B = -\mu_{0} ks \hat{z}
but the answer is supposed to be positive...
why is that? Am i supposed to include the surface current density to find the field? But for a question in the past (for a cylinder with magnetization M = ks^2 \hat{\phi}.. however that time the enclosed current in the enitre (s>R) cylinder was zero - there was symmetry between the two surface currents. The amperian loop was a circlular loop within the cylinder...

Is this question to be solved differently because there is no symmtery between the surface and volume current densities?
 
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If ##\mathbf{J}_b=-k \mathbf{\hat \phi}## and you want to write the current as ##I_b=\int\mathbf{J}_b\cdot \mathbf{da}##, then in what direction should the normal to area element ##da## be?

You wrote ##da=s' ds'd\phi'## which implies that ##\mathbf{da}=s' ds'd\phi'\mathbf{\hat z}##. In that case ##I_b=0##.
 

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