Magnetic field of a hollow cylinder

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The discussion focuses on deriving the magnetic field of a hollow finite solenoid with uniform current, utilizing Biot-Savart's law and magnetic vector potential as outlined in Griffiths' "Introduction to Electrodynamics" (3rd edition). The participant employs cylindrical coordinates and considers the current density \(\vec{K} = \frac{nI}{z'}\hat{\phi}\) for calculations. The conversation also touches on the implications of fringing fields and the potential need for elliptic integrals in the analysis, particularly when inserting ferromagnetic materials.

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  • Understanding of Biot-Savart's law
  • Familiarity with magnetic vector potential
  • Knowledge of Griffiths' equations, specifically equations 5.39 and 5.64
  • Basic concepts of cylindrical coordinates
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Homework Statement


Find an expression for the magnetic field of a hollow finite solenoid carrying uniform current with n turns (there is no top or bottom surfaces and the turns a very closely winded) at a point arbitrary P both inside and outside. Let's just say windings around a hollow pvc pipe.


Homework Equations


I can use either biot savarts law and/or magnetic vector potential for surface currents. I'll use griffiths notation 3rd edition equations 5.39 and 5.64 respectively.


The Attempt at a Solution


I'll attempt this in cylinderical coordinates. Since the current is uniform. I'll use the

\vec{A}\left(\vec{r}\right)=\frac{1}{4\pi}\int\frac{\vec{K\left(r'\right)}}{\tau}da'

Current density \vec{K} is in the \hat{\phi}

so \vec{K}=\frac{nI}{z'}\hat{\phi} ? Since current is uniform.
\tau=\left|r-r'\right|

r=s\hat{s}+s\phi\hat{\phi}+z\hat{z}
r'=s\hat{s}?

da'=sd\phi'dz'

Where the limits of phi' is 0->2*pi and z' is 0 -> L (length of cylinder)
 
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Do you have an image of the particular set-up? Or could you reference to one in Griffiths?
 
Hi Sandy, I just attached an image file its just turns of wire wrapped around a pvc. I looked up a few things I think I have to use elliptic integrals... My first aim is to write an expression for the current density and the position and source vectors r and r'.
 

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Are you neglecting fringing? If you use Biot-Savart, have you considered analyzing a single loop, and then applying superposition to n loops?
 
I've thought about that since Jackson's has a solution to a single loop of wire. But I'm going to be inserting a ferromagntic material inside at some stage so I might need to take fringing fields into account?
 
Well, I am not really in a position to help you with the fringing effects as I only have experience at the undergraduate level thus far.
 

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