Magnetic Field of an infinite current-carrying wire at a point

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The discussion focuses on the calculation of the magnetic field generated by an infinite current-carrying wire. The initial attempt presents a series of equations to derive the magnetic field, but the contributor expresses confusion over the disappearance of certain variables and the integration process. Clarifications are provided regarding the role of the distance variable \( r \) and the differential element \( d\vec{l} \), with emphasis on the importance of maintaining clarity in the mathematical representation. The conversation highlights the need for understanding symmetry in solving such physics problems. Ultimately, the thread underscores the complexities involved in deriving the magnetic field from an infinite wire.
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Homework Statement
Find the magnetic field strength at point P (illustration below)
Relevant Equations
$$d\vec{B}(r) = \dfrac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\dfrac{Id\vec{l}\times\hat{r}}{r^2}$$
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My attempt:

$$d\vec{B}(r) = \dfrac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\dfrac{Id\vec{l}r\sin{\theta}}{r^2}$$

$$d\vec{B}(r) = \dfrac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\dfrac{Id\vec{l}\sin{\theta}}{r}$$
$$ \sin{\theta} = \dfrac{y}{(x^2+y^2)^{1/2}}$$

$$ d\vec{B}(r) = \dfrac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\dfrac{Id\vec{l}}{r}\dfrac{y}{(x^2+y^2)^{1/2}}$$
$$d\vec{B}(r) = \dfrac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\dfrac{Id\vec{l}y}{r^2}$$


$$d\vec{B}(r) = \dfrac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\dfrac{Iyd\vec{l}}{r^2}$$



This is what I determined to be the magnetic force at P due to ##d\vec{I}##


$$B(r) = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} d\vec{B}(r)$$


$$B(r) =\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \dfrac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\dfrac{Iyd\vec{l}}{r^2}$$


$$B(r) =\dfrac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\dfrac{Iy\vec{l}}{r^2} \Big|_{-\infty}^{+\infty}$$

I don't think my solution is solvable, it just becomes positive infinity minus negative infinity

My professor had a different solution to ##d\vec{B}(r)##

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I don't understand where ##r## went and how ##dx## was brought forth in the second step :oldconfused:
 
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Please fix your LaTeX and make it legible.
BuggyWungos said:
My professor had a different solution to ##d\vec{B}(r)##

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I don't understand where ##r## went and how ##dx## was brought forth in the second step :oldconfused:
##r## didn't go anywhere. It is still there as ##\sqrt{x^2+y^2}.##
##d\vec l## is an element in the direction of the current. Its magnitude in this case is ##dx##.
 
kuruman said:
Please fix you LaTeX and make it legible.

##r## didn't go anywhere. It is still there as ##\sqrt{x^2+y^2}.##
##d\vec l## is an element in the direction of the current. Its magnitude in this case is ##dx##.
I'm surprised you were able to understand all that before I fixed it.

I understand the second part of your comment, but where is ##\sqrt{x^2+y^2}## in the second step of my prof's solution?

Edit: I would have expected it to end up like ##d\vec{B}(r) = \dfrac{\mu_0}{4\pi} \dfrac{Idx\sin{\theta}}{r}##
 
@BuggyWungos, note that in the expression
##~~~~\dfrac {\mu_0}{4 \pi} \dfrac {I \vec {dl} \times \hat r}{r^2}##
##\hat r## is the unit vector in the r-direction; it’s magnitude is ##1##. Don't confuse it with ##\vec r##.
 
Steve4Physics said:
@BuggyWungos, note that in the expression
##~~~~\dfrac {\mu_0}{4 \pi} \dfrac {I \vec {dl} \times \hat r}{r^2}##
##\hat r## is the unit vector in the r-direction; it’s magnitude is ##1##. Don't confuse it with ##\vec r##.
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Thank you that's such a silly oversight, I even wrote it as r hat in latex and missed it lol
 
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